From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] stringbuf: A string buffer implementation
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:03:52 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071029030352.GC19691@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200710272009.31430.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 08:09:30PM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Saturday 27 October 2007 06:57:14 Matt Mackall wrote:
> > Well I expect once you start letting people easily build strings by
> > concatenation, you'll very shortly afterwards have people using them
> > in loops. And having hidden O(n^2) behavior in there is a little sad,
> > even though n will tend to be small and well-bounded. If we can do
> > something simple to avoid it, we should.
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> I avoid typing even a single character of optimization until it's
> justified. This is partially a reaction against the machoptimization
> tendencies of many kernel programmers, but it's mainly a concern at the
> kernel's complexity creep.
>
> Meanwhile, of course, I've now spent far too long analyzing this :)
>
> Building a 1000 byte string 1 byte at a time involves 6 reallocs (SLAB) or 10
> reallocs (SLUB). Frankly, that's good enough without an explicit alloc
> length field (better in some ways).
And on SLOB, which doesn't have those bloaty power-of-2 constraints?
Looks like ~500 reallocs, including 250000 bytes of memcpy. Ouch!
SLAB and SLUB (accidentally) internalize the optimization that I'm
proposing: grow the string by a constant factor at each step. Failing
to do that makes the behavior dismal.
--
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-29 3:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-24 19:58 Stringbuf, v2 Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 19:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] stringbuf: A string buffer implementation Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 19:59 ` [PATCH 2/4] isdn: Use stringbuf Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 19:59 ` [PATCH 3/4] sound: " Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 19:59 ` [PATCH 4/4] partitions: Fix non-atomic printk Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 20:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] stringbuf: A string buffer implementation Kyle Moffett
2007-10-24 21:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-25 0:07 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-10-25 3:23 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-26 2:11 ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-26 3:41 ` Joe Perches
2007-10-26 5:05 ` Joe Perches
2007-10-26 11:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-26 20:57 ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-27 10:09 ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-29 3:03 ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2007-10-29 5:38 ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-27 11:47 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-10-27 12:50 ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-27 16:34 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-10-27 16:48 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 20:51 ` Stringbuf, v2 Joe Perches
2007-10-24 20:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 21:06 ` Joe Perches
2007-10-24 21:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-23 21:12 [PATCH 1/4] stringbuf: A string buffer implementation Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-23 22:11 ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-24 1:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 15:20 ` Matt Mackall
2007-10-24 15:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-23 23:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-24 2:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 2:45 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-24 2:19 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-10-24 2:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-24 2:48 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-10-24 13:21 ` Florian Weimer
2007-10-24 14:02 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-26 12:05 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-10-27 7:31 ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-30 15:26 ` Denys Vlasenko
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