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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, David Dillow <dillowda@ornl.gov>,
	Guillaume Chazarain <guichaz@yahoo.fr>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrace@vger.kernel.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] block: fix blktrace timestamps
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:42:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080114084231.GQ6258@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080114083901.GA17897@infradead.org>

On Mon, Jan 14 2008, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> 
> Folks, this is getting a little silly.

It is

> Even if CONFIG_NO_HZ is new this is a an important regression, and
> yes we should avoid regressions wherever we can, and for such a quite
> important feature we should fix it.  On the other hand blktrace is using
> the wrong interface, and it has been told multiple times on lkml that
> sched_clock() should never ever be used outside the scheduler.  So the
> burden to fix this regression lies on the shoulders of the blktrace
> maintainer.

That is true. So far alternatives have all been slower though, so not
very tempting to transition to.

> No need for silly name calling here.

I don't know what thread you are reading, but neiter Ingo nor I have
resorted to silly name calling. The thread has long since diverted from
the original topic, though.

-- 
Jens Axboe


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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, David Dillow <dillowda@ornl.gov>,
	Guillaume Chazarain <guichaz@yahoo.fr>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrace@vger.kernel.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] block: fix blktrace timestamps
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:42:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080114084231.GQ6258@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080114083901.GA17897@infradead.org>

On Mon, Jan 14 2008, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> 
> Folks, this is getting a little silly.

It is

> Even if CONFIG_NO_HZ is new this is a an important regression, and
> yes we should avoid regressions wherever we can, and for such a quite
> important feature we should fix it.  On the other hand blktrace is using
> the wrong interface, and it has been told multiple times on lkml that
> sched_clock() should never ever be used outside the scheduler.  So the
> burden to fix this regression lies on the shoulders of the blktrace
> maintainer.

That is true. So far alternatives have all been slower though, so not
very tempting to transition to.

> No need for silly name calling here.

I don't know what thread you are reading, but neiter Ingo nor I have
resorted to silly name calling. The thread has long since diverted from
the original topic, though.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-14  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-09 22:48 CONFIG_NO_HZ breaks blktrace timestamps David Dillow
2008-01-09 22:48 ` David Dillow
2008-01-10 20:25 ` David Dillow
2008-01-10 20:25   ` David Dillow
2008-01-10 22:44   ` Guillaume Chazarain
2008-01-10 22:44     ` Guillaume Chazarain
2008-01-11  3:04     ` David Dillow
2008-01-11  3:04       ` David Dillow
2008-01-11  9:07       ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11  9:07         ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11  9:23         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11  9:23           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11  9:25           ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11  9:25             ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11  9:42             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11  9:42               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11  9:56               ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11  9:56                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11 10:29                 ` [patch] block: fix " Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11 10:29                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11 10:47                   ` Guillaume Chazarain
2008-01-11 10:47                     ` Guillaume Chazarain
2008-01-11 10:50                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11 10:50                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11 12:28                   ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11 12:28                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11 12:42                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11 12:42                       ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11 13:21                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11 13:21                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11 17:18                       ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11 17:18                         ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-14  7:51                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-14  7:51                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-14  7:59                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-14  7:59                             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-14  8:10                             ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-14  8:10                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-14  8:39                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-14  8:42                             ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2008-01-14  8:42                               ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11 15:36                   ` David Dillow
2008-01-11 15:36                     ` David Dillow
2008-01-11 16:44                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11 16:44                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11 17:26                       ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11 17:26                         ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11  9:29           ` CONFIG_NO_HZ breaks " Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11  9:29             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11  9:34             ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11  9:34               ` Jens Axboe
2008-01-11  9:28         ` nigel
2008-01-11  9:28           ` nigel
2008-01-11  9:32           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11  9:32             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-13 22:54             ` nigel
2008-01-13 22:54               ` nigel
2008-01-11  9:44       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11  9:44         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11  9:51         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11  9:51           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11 10:41     ` Guillaume Chazarain
2008-01-11 10:41       ` Guillaume Chazarain
2008-01-11 10:55       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11 10:55         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11 22:30         ` Guillaume Chazarain
2008-01-11 22:30           ` Guillaume Chazarain
2008-01-12  0:03           ` Guillaume Chazarain
2008-01-12  0:03             ` Guillaume Chazarain
2008-01-11  9:34   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11  9:34     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-11 15:43     ` David Dillow
2008-01-11 15:43       ` David Dillow

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