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From: "Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwish.07@gmail.com>
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LSM-ML <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Audit-ML <linux-audit@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Smack<->Audit integration
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:26:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080310182634.GA448@ubuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <135060.71118.qm@web36610.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 09:07:08AM -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> 
> --- "Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwish.07@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
...
> > 
> > diff --git a/security/smack/smack.h b/security/smack/smack.h
> > index c444f48..2c8bb4c 100644
> > --- a/security/smack/smack.h
> > +++ b/security/smack/smack.h
> > @@ -57,6 +57,15 @@ struct inode_smack {
> >  	char		*smk_inode;	/* label of the fso */
> >  	struct mutex	smk_lock;	/* initialization lock */
> >  	int		smk_flags;	/* smack inode flags */
> > +	int		secid;		/* security identifier */
> 
> No.
> 
> Secid's are horrid things and every effort should be made to
> expunge them from the known universe. Under no circumstances
> should thier use be expanded. The only reason Smack has them
> at all is because certain interfaces that in my mind should
> have known better use them. If you must deal with secids,
> and for this round of audit I think that's a given, use
> smack_to_secid(sp->smk_inode) where you need to. If there's a
> real performance issue apply intelligence to smack_to_secid
> instead of storing the secid. There ought to be a way to
> use container_of to do smack_to_secid, but I had trouble with
> that and moved along without figuring out what I had done
> wrong.
> 

mm .. I should have remembered the un-official Smack motto:
"Everything is a label, and whenever possible, this label is allocated
 once through system lifetime"

About performance, yes there'll be issues searching labels espicially
in audit_rule_match() which got called at the end of every system call.
I'll try it using container_of (it should work at the end).

...
>
> > @@ -1696,9 +1738,9 @@ static int smack_msg_queue_alloc_security(struct
> > msg_queue *msq)
> >   */
> >  static void smack_msg_queue_free_security(struct msg_queue *msq)
> >  {
> > -	struct kern_ipc_perm *kisp = &msq->q_perm;
> > +	struct kern_ipc_perm *ipcp = &msq->q_perm;
> >  
> > -	kisp->security = NULL;
> > +	kfree(ipcp->security);
> >  }
> 
> Don't you just hate repetative reviewers?
>

Probably hating secids with passion :) ?

Admittedly, after some thinking I felt now that they don't fit with
the Smack model very well.

...
> > +
> > +/**
> > + * smack_audit_rule_match - Audit given secid identified object ?
> > + * @secid: Security id to test
> > + * @field: Message flags given from user-space
> > + * @op: Required operation (only equality is allowed)
> > + * @vrule: Smack audit rule that will be checked against the secid object
> > + * @actx: audit context associated with the check (used for Audit logging)
> > + *
> > + * This is the core Audit hook. It's used to identify objects like 
> > + * syscalls and inodes requested from user-space to be audited from 
> > + * remaining kernel objects.
> > + */
> > +static int smack_audit_rule_match(u32 secid, u32 field, u32 op, void *vrule,
> > +				  struct audit_context *actx)
> > +{
> > +	struct smack_known *smk_rule = vrule;
> 
>         char *smack;
> 

More of "everything is a label".

> > +
> > +	if (!smk_rule) {
> > +		audit_log(actx, GFP_KERNEL, AUDIT_SELINUX_ERR,
> > +			  "Smack: missing rule\n");
> > +		return -ENOENT;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	if (field != AUDIT_SUBJ_USER && field != AUDIT_OBJ_USER)
> > +		return 0;
> > +
> 
>         smack = smack_from_secid(secid);
> 
> > +	if (op == AUDIT_EQUAL)
> > +		return (smk_rule->smk_secid == secid);
> > +	if (op == AUDIT_NOT_EQUAL)
> > +		return (smk_rule->smk_secid != secid);
> 
>  	if (op == AUDIT_EQUAL)
> 		return (smk_rule->smk_smack == smack);
> 	if (op == AUDIT_NOT_EQUAL)
> 		return (smk_rule->smk_smack == smack);
> 

You've meant using the short-circuit:
	 smk_rule->smk_smack == smack || strnmp(smack, ..., ..)
Right ?

...
> > +
> > +/**
> > + * smack_audit_rule_free - free internal audit rule representation
> > + * @vrule: rule to be freed.
> > + *
> > + * No memory was allocated in audit_rule_init.
> > + */
> > +static void smack_audit_rule_free(void *vrule)
> > +{
> > +	/* No-op */
> > +}

This little no-op was the only thing that was agreed upon ;)

...
> 
> Casey Schaufler
> casey@schaufler-ca.com

Regards,

-- 

"Better to light a candle, than curse the darkness"

Ahmed S. Darwish
Homepage: http://darwish.07.googlepages.com
Blog: http://darwish-07.blogspot.com

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From: "Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwish.07@gmail.com>
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>, Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LSM-ML <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Audit-ML <linux-audit@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Smack<->Audit integration
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:26:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080310182634.GA448@ubuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <135060.71118.qm@web36610.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 09:07:08AM -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> 
> --- "Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwish.07@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
...
> > 
> > diff --git a/security/smack/smack.h b/security/smack/smack.h
> > index c444f48..2c8bb4c 100644
> > --- a/security/smack/smack.h
> > +++ b/security/smack/smack.h
> > @@ -57,6 +57,15 @@ struct inode_smack {
> >  	char		*smk_inode;	/* label of the fso */
> >  	struct mutex	smk_lock;	/* initialization lock */
> >  	int		smk_flags;	/* smack inode flags */
> > +	int		secid;		/* security identifier */
> 
> No.
> 
> Secid's are horrid things and every effort should be made to
> expunge them from the known universe. Under no circumstances
> should thier use be expanded. The only reason Smack has them
> at all is because certain interfaces that in my mind should
> have known better use them. If you must deal with secids,
> and for this round of audit I think that's a given, use
> smack_to_secid(sp->smk_inode) where you need to. If there's a
> real performance issue apply intelligence to smack_to_secid
> instead of storing the secid. There ought to be a way to
> use container_of to do smack_to_secid, but I had trouble with
> that and moved along without figuring out what I had done
> wrong.
> 

mm .. I should have remembered the un-official Smack motto:
"Everything is a label, and whenever possible, this label is allocated
 once through system lifetime"

About performance, yes there'll be issues searching labels espicially
in audit_rule_match() which got called at the end of every system call.
I'll try it using container_of (it should work at the end).

...
>
> > @@ -1696,9 +1738,9 @@ static int smack_msg_queue_alloc_security(struct
> > msg_queue *msq)
> >   */
> >  static void smack_msg_queue_free_security(struct msg_queue *msq)
> >  {
> > -	struct kern_ipc_perm *kisp = &msq->q_perm;
> > +	struct kern_ipc_perm *ipcp = &msq->q_perm;
> >  
> > -	kisp->security = NULL;
> > +	kfree(ipcp->security);
> >  }
> 
> Don't you just hate repetative reviewers?
>

Probably hating secids with passion :) ?

Admittedly, after some thinking I felt now that they don't fit with
the Smack model very well.

...
> > +
> > +/**
> > + * smack_audit_rule_match - Audit given secid identified object ?
> > + * @secid: Security id to test
> > + * @field: Message flags given from user-space
> > + * @op: Required operation (only equality is allowed)
> > + * @vrule: Smack audit rule that will be checked against the secid object
> > + * @actx: audit context associated with the check (used for Audit logging)
> > + *
> > + * This is the core Audit hook. It's used to identify objects like 
> > + * syscalls and inodes requested from user-space to be audited from 
> > + * remaining kernel objects.
> > + */
> > +static int smack_audit_rule_match(u32 secid, u32 field, u32 op, void *vrule,
> > +				  struct audit_context *actx)
> > +{
> > +	struct smack_known *smk_rule = vrule;
> 
>         char *smack;
> 

More of "everything is a label".

> > +
> > +	if (!smk_rule) {
> > +		audit_log(actx, GFP_KERNEL, AUDIT_SELINUX_ERR,
> > +			  "Smack: missing rule\n");
> > +		return -ENOENT;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	if (field != AUDIT_SUBJ_USER && field != AUDIT_OBJ_USER)
> > +		return 0;
> > +
> 
>         smack = smack_from_secid(secid);
> 
> > +	if (op == AUDIT_EQUAL)
> > +		return (smk_rule->smk_secid == secid);
> > +	if (op == AUDIT_NOT_EQUAL)
> > +		return (smk_rule->smk_secid != secid);
> 
>  	if (op == AUDIT_EQUAL)
> 		return (smk_rule->smk_smack == smack);
> 	if (op == AUDIT_NOT_EQUAL)
> 		return (smk_rule->smk_smack == smack);
> 

You've meant using the short-circuit:
	 smk_rule->smk_smack == smack || strnmp(smack, ..., ..)
Right ?

...
> > +
> > +/**
> > + * smack_audit_rule_free - free internal audit rule representation
> > + * @vrule: rule to be freed.
> > + *
> > + * No memory was allocated in audit_rule_init.
> > + */
> > +static void smack_audit_rule_free(void *vrule)
> > +{
> > +	/* No-op */
> > +}

This little no-op was the only thing that was agreed upon ;)

...
> 
> Casey Schaufler
> casey@schaufler-ca.com

Regards,

-- 

"Better to light a candle, than curse the darkness"

Ahmed S. Darwish
Homepage: http://darwish.07.googlepages.com
Blog: http://darwish-07.blogspot.com


  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-10 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-10 12:49 [RFC][PATCH] Smack<->Audit integration Ahmed S. Darwish
2008-03-10 16:07 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-03-10 16:07   ` Casey Schaufler
2008-03-10 18:26   ` Ahmed S. Darwish [this message]
2008-03-10 18:26     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2008-03-10 18:43     ` Casey Schaufler
2008-03-12  2:44       ` [RFC][PATCH -v2] Smack: Integrate with Audit Ahmed S. Darwish
2008-03-12  4:23         ` Casey Schaufler
2008-03-12 12:18           ` [PATCH -v2b] " Ahmed S. Darwish
2008-03-12 12:52         ` [RFC][PATCH -v2] " Stephen Smalley
2008-03-12 12:52           ` Stephen Smalley
2008-03-12 15:40           ` Casey Schaufler
2008-03-12 15:40             ` Casey Schaufler
2008-03-12 15:48             ` Stephen Smalley
2008-03-12 16:23               ` Linda Knippers
2008-03-12 16:43               ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2008-03-12 18:09                 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-03-13 13:55           ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-13 13:55             ` Steve Grubb

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