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* Re: X-Fi support in ALSA.
@ 2008-03-10 23:49 Spike
  2008-03-11  0:09 ` William Pitcock
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Spike @ 2008-03-10 23:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: James; +Cc: alsa-devel



> Hi,
>
> I have now had a chance to read some of the specs of the X-Fi cards. 
> aka. emu20k1.
> It turns out that some of the X-Fi cards have a compatibility mode.
> By default, they boot up in compatibility mode.
> The interesting point is that this "compatibility mode" is in fact
> the intel-HD standard so could use the intel-hda driver.
> For one X-Fi card with IDs:
> Device 1102:0009 Subsystem: 1102:0010
> works a bit with the ALSA hda-intel driver.
> So far, the off the shelf hda-intel driver, with simple PCIs
> adjustment, works for the above card, but only sound capture works so
> far, so probably some quirk would be needed.
> This compatibility mode works with the Windows Vista UAA drivers.
>
> Not all X-Fi cards support with compatibility mode. For example, any 
> card with (after a cold boot into Linux)
> Device 1102:0005 Subsystem: xxxx:xxxx
> will be X-Fi only.
>
> With regard to actual full X-Fi support, I am still in the progress of 
> creating a GPL emu20k1.h file, that is the first step towards an 
> snd-emu20k1 native ALSA driver.
>
> James

Hello,

That first ID is an X-Fi Xtreme Audio PCIe (CA0110-IBG) is it not? Not a
real EMU20K1 based X-Fi, fully software driven, and from what I read its
just a PCIe variation of the old CA0106. This thing will probably work
with snd-ca0106 if creative kept to their old tactics regarding their
low end X-Fi products.

As for supporting the real X-Fi's, this is great news, its been a very
longtime coming. One just has to question Creative's motives behind
finally releasing the datasheets out of the blue like that after more
than 2 years of trying to get them. Are these sheets under an NDA?
Full support of an X-Fi will probably also need a firmware loader.

If the PCIe CA0110-IBG doesn't share any common traits with a full
blown EMU20K1, then I think the real X-Fi's should be focused on first
as many more people are going to have these real X-Fi's that are
useless to them at the moment, (about 3 years remember).

I'll be around to help test code and can try anything you will require
to help out supporting a real X-Fi card.

02:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB X-Fi [1102:0005]
        Subsystem: Unknown device 415a:0034
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
        I/O ports at a400 [size=32]
        Memory at efc00000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2M]
        Memory at e8000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64M]

Bren

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* X-Fi support in ALSA.
@ 2008-03-10 20:20 James Courtier-Dutton
  2008-03-11 17:16 ` Takashi Iwai
  2008-09-18 15:42 ` Sean R Plantz
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: James Courtier-Dutton @ 2008-03-10 20:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

Hi,

I have now had a chance to read some of the specs of the X-Fi cards. 
aka. emu20k1.
It turns out that some of the X-Fi cards have a compatibility mode.
By default, they boot up in compatibility mode.
The interesting point is that this "compatibility mode" is in fact the 
intel-HD standard so could use the intel-hda driver.
For one X-Fi card with IDs:
Device 1102:0009 Subsystem: 1102:0010
works a bit with the ALSA hda-intel driver.
So far, the off the shelf hda-intel driver, with simple PCIs adjustment, 
works for the above card, but only sound capture works so far, so 
probably some quirk would be needed.
This compatibility mode works with the Windows Vista UAA drivers.

Not all X-Fi cards support with compatibility mode. For example, any 
card with (after a cold boot into Linux)
Device 1102:0005 Subsystem: xxxx:xxxx
will be X-Fi only.

With regard to actual full X-Fi support, I am still in the progress of 
creating a GPL emu20k1.h file, that is the first step towards an 
snd-emu20k1 native ALSA driver.

James

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