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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>
Cc: u-boot-users@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Bernard Blackham <bernard@largestprime.net>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [U-Boot-Users] ubi and u-boot
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:29:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080420172937.GA16184@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1208709853.6654.23.camel@vader.jdub.homelinux.org>

Josh Boyer wrote:
> > Hamish Moffatt wrote (Message-ID: <20080407073227.GA6317@cloud.net.au>):
> > > Sorry I should've said 512MiB perhaps: 512 megabytes.
> > > UBI attach time appears to be about 6 seconds.
> > 
> > If 6 seconds is as fast as it can be done, annoying but fair enough.
> 
> You should read that thread a bit more carefully.  The scan time is
> highly dependent upon the NAND driver beneath UBI.  For example, a UBI
> scan/attach on a 1GiB device on OLPC was 2 seconds.

Ah, I intended to quote the 2 seconds too but forgot, sorry.  I think
2 seconds per gigabyte is a significant time, too, but not so much.

The followup suggested it was due to the speed of the chip, not so
much the driver.

> > Adding _another_ 6 seconds to the boot time seems a lot to me.
> 
> You mean adding another "X amount of time depending on factors outside
> of UBI's control."

Well, yes, that would be a reason to consider whether doing it is a
good idea :-)

> > I can understand the hesitation, but I think 6 seconds just to find
> > the kernel - especially when doing a 'disk resume' - is quite a lot.
> 
> You should really stop quoting this 6 second number.

Let's call it 2 seconds per gigabyte, then.

> > Note that I haven't tried UBI myself yet.  I'm going on what has been
> > written to the list so far, as quoted above.
> 
> Maybe you should try it :).

I will when good looking figures are being quoted on the list ;-)

-- Jamie

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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] ubi and u-boot
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:29:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080420172937.GA16184@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1208709853.6654.23.camel@vader.jdub.homelinux.org>

Josh Boyer wrote:
> > Hamish Moffatt wrote (Message-ID: <20080407073227.GA6317@cloud.net.au>):
> > > Sorry I should've said 512MiB perhaps: 512 megabytes.
> > > UBI attach time appears to be about 6 seconds.
> > 
> > If 6 seconds is as fast as it can be done, annoying but fair enough.
> 
> You should read that thread a bit more carefully.  The scan time is
> highly dependent upon the NAND driver beneath UBI.  For example, a UBI
> scan/attach on a 1GiB device on OLPC was 2 seconds.

Ah, I intended to quote the 2 seconds too but forgot, sorry.  I think
2 seconds per gigabyte is a significant time, too, but not so much.

The followup suggested it was due to the speed of the chip, not so
much the driver.

> > Adding _another_ 6 seconds to the boot time seems a lot to me.
> 
> You mean adding another "X amount of time depending on factors outside
> of UBI's control."

Well, yes, that would be a reason to consider whether doing it is a
good idea :-)

> > I can understand the hesitation, but I think 6 seconds just to find
> > the kernel - especially when doing a 'disk resume' - is quite a lot.
> 
> You should really stop quoting this 6 second number.

Let's call it 2 seconds per gigabyte, then.

> > Note that I haven't tried UBI myself yet.  I'm going on what has been
> > written to the list so far, as quoted above.
> 
> Maybe you should try it :).

I will when good looking figures are being quoted on the list ;-)

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-20 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-18 14:21 ubi and u-boot Bernard Blackham
2008-04-18 14:21 ` [U-Boot-Users] " Bernard Blackham
2008-04-18 16:40 ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-18 16:40   ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-18 16:59   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-18 16:59     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-18 17:49     ` Bernard Blackham
2008-04-18 17:49       ` Bernard Blackham
2008-04-20 22:22       ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-04-20 22:22         ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-04-21 12:05         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-21 13:36           ` Ricard Wanderlof
2008-04-21 13:36             ` Ricard Wanderlof
2008-04-21 13:44             ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-21 13:44               ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-21 13:50               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-21 14:01                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-22 11:44                 ` Ricard Wanderlof
2008-04-22 11:44                   ` Ricard Wanderlof
2008-04-22  1:09               ` [U-Boot-Users] How to set CPU speed to 266mhz s3c2410? p
2008-04-23  7:05                 ` michael
2008-04-23  7:44                 ` Martin Krause
2008-04-23 23:58                 ` p
2008-04-22 12:30               ` [U-Boot-Users] ubi and u-boot Jamie Lokier
2008-04-22 12:30                 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-18 19:19     ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-18 19:19       ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-20 16:04       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-20 16:04         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-20 16:44         ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-20 16:44           ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-20 17:29           ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-04-20 17:29             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-21  1:05         ` Hamish Moffatt
2008-04-21  1:05           ` Hamish Moffatt
2008-04-19  9:25 ` Artem Bityutskiy

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