From: Bernard Blackham <bernard@largestprime.net>
To: u-boot-users@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [U-Boot-Users] ubi and u-boot
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:49:47 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4808DF3B.2080702@largestprime.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080418165957.GG31520@shareable.org>
Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Josh Boyer wrote:
>>> Is anyone working on ubi/ubifs support in u-boot?
>> I am not aware of anyone actively working on porting UBI to upstream
>> U-Boot at this exact moment.
>
> Is it even a good idea?
From what I've seen, UBI is the first solution with the potential for
reliably booting from NAND flash - specifically, dealing with
read-disturbance from adjacent blocks causing bit errors in critical
boot blocks. This could save useful things like your kernel image (where
it's rarely written, but it and blocks around it are read often enough
to cause an annoying bitflip or two). The rewriting can be done once
userspace boots, but having it in UBI to begin with makes this easier.
(Unless there's a much easier way to deal with read-disturbance that
I've missed, in which case please lart me).
Wolfgang showed some interest briefly too.[1]
> The UBI (version 1 :-) initial scan is not
> fast for large flash, and if the bootloader does it too, that's twice
> as much time to boot.
>
> However, if there was a protocol for bootloader to pass the scan
> results to the booted kernel, that would be very nice.
If there's no compelling reasons not to, I'll try and find some time to
work on ubi in uboot. I'm not expecting it to be easy though :)
Cheers,
Bernard.
[1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.boot-loaders.u-boot/32602
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From: Bernard Blackham <bernard@largestprime.net>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] ubi and u-boot
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:49:47 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4808DF3B.2080702@largestprime.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080418165957.GG31520@shareable.org>
Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Josh Boyer wrote:
>>> Is anyone working on ubi/ubifs support in u-boot?
>> I am not aware of anyone actively working on porting UBI to upstream
>> U-Boot at this exact moment.
>
> Is it even a good idea?
From what I've seen, UBI is the first solution with the potential for
reliably booting from NAND flash - specifically, dealing with
read-disturbance from adjacent blocks causing bit errors in critical
boot blocks. This could save useful things like your kernel image (where
it's rarely written, but it and blocks around it are read often enough
to cause an annoying bitflip or two). The rewriting can be done once
userspace boots, but having it in UBI to begin with makes this easier.
(Unless there's a much easier way to deal with read-disturbance that
I've missed, in which case please lart me).
Wolfgang showed some interest briefly too.[1]
> The UBI (version 1 :-) initial scan is not
> fast for large flash, and if the bootloader does it too, that's twice
> as much time to boot.
>
> However, if there was a protocol for bootloader to pass the scan
> results to the booted kernel, that would be very nice.
If there's no compelling reasons not to, I'll try and find some time to
work on ubi in uboot. I'm not expecting it to be easy though :)
Cheers,
Bernard.
[1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.boot-loaders.u-boot/32602
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-18 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-18 14:21 ubi and u-boot Bernard Blackham
2008-04-18 14:21 ` [U-Boot-Users] " Bernard Blackham
2008-04-18 16:40 ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-18 16:40 ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-18 16:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-18 16:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-18 17:49 ` Bernard Blackham [this message]
2008-04-18 17:49 ` Bernard Blackham
2008-04-20 22:22 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-04-20 22:22 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-04-21 12:05 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-21 13:36 ` Ricard Wanderlof
2008-04-21 13:36 ` Ricard Wanderlof
2008-04-21 13:44 ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-21 13:44 ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-21 13:50 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-21 14:01 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-04-22 11:44 ` Ricard Wanderlof
2008-04-22 11:44 ` Ricard Wanderlof
2008-04-22 1:09 ` [U-Boot-Users] How to set CPU speed to 266mhz s3c2410? p
2008-04-23 7:05 ` michael
2008-04-23 7:44 ` Martin Krause
2008-04-23 23:58 ` p
2008-04-22 12:30 ` [U-Boot-Users] ubi and u-boot Jamie Lokier
2008-04-22 12:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-18 19:19 ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-18 19:19 ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-20 16:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-20 16:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-20 16:44 ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-20 16:44 ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-20 17:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-20 17:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-21 1:05 ` Hamish Moffatt
2008-04-21 1:05 ` Hamish Moffatt
2008-04-19 9:25 ` Artem Bityutskiy
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