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From: David Brownell <david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Jean Delvare <khali-PUYAD+kWke1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: spi-devel-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	Jonathan Cameron
	<Jonathan.Cameron-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	LM Sensors <lm-sensors-GZX6beZjE8VD60Wz+7aTrA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dtor-JGs/UdohzUI@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel.
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:52:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200805211752.15670.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080520132817.03fb74ea-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>

On Tuesday 20 May 2008, Jean Delvare wrote:
> This all sounds quite different from our hwmon drivers. Our hwmon
> drivers read all the sensor values at once and cache the readings for a
> couple seconds, so you can't get an instant reading at any time, and
> they also don't support interrupts in general.

That's something of an issue when the hardware monitor
triggers alarms though, right?  I couldn't figure out
how to get a TMP75 alert out to any userspace code that
would care, to pick one example, even after teaching
the i2c core how to handle SMBus alerts.  ;)

I suppose this just emphasizes the point made by Hans
that we kind of need (industrial) "control" components
(or "data acquisition"?) not just "monitoring" ones.

Such alarms are of course different from the "data
ready" signals of an accelerometer.

- Dave


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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
Cc: spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@mail.ru>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	LM Sensors <lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org>
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] Accelerometer,
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 00:52:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200805211752.15670.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080520132817.03fb74ea@hyperion.delvare>

On Tuesday 20 May 2008, Jean Delvare wrote:
> This all sounds quite different from our hwmon drivers. Our hwmon
> drivers read all the sensor values at once and cache the readings for a
> couple seconds, so you can't get an instant reading at any time, and
> they also don't support interrupts in general.

That's something of an issue when the hardware monitor
triggers alarms though, right?  I couldn't figure out
how to get a TMP75 alert out to any userspace code that
would care, to pick one example, even after teaching
the i2c core how to handle SMBus alerts.  ;)

I suppose this just emphasizes the point made by Hans
that we kind of need (industrial) "control" components
(or "data acquisition"?) not just "monitoring" ones.

Such alarms are of course different from the "data
ready" signals of an accelerometer.

- Dave


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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
Cc: spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@mail.ru>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	LM Sensors <lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org>
Subject: Re: Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel.
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:52:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200805211752.15670.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080520132817.03fb74ea@hyperion.delvare>

On Tuesday 20 May 2008, Jean Delvare wrote:
> This all sounds quite different from our hwmon drivers. Our hwmon
> drivers read all the sensor values at once and cache the readings for a
> couple seconds, so you can't get an instant reading at any time, and
> they also don't support interrupts in general.

That's something of an issue when the hardware monitor
triggers alarms though, right?  I couldn't figure out
how to get a TMP75 alert out to any userspace code that
would care, to pick one example, even after teaching
the i2c core how to handle SMBus alerts.  ;)

I suppose this just emphasizes the point made by Hans
that we kind of need (industrial) "control" components
(or "data acquisition"?) not just "monitoring" ones.

Such alarms are of course different from the "data
ready" signals of an accelerometer.

- Dave


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-05-22  0:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-20 10:04 Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-20 10:04 ` Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-20 10:04 ` [lm-sensors] " Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-20 11:28 ` Jean Delvare
2008-05-20 11:28   ` [lm-sensors] Accelerometer, Jean Delvare
     [not found]   ` <20080520132817.03fb74ea-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-20 21:40     ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Hans J. Koch
2008-05-20 21:40       ` Hans J. Koch
2008-05-20 21:40       ` [lm-sensors] Accelerometer, Hans J. Koch
2008-05-21 10:04       ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-21 10:04         ` [lm-sensors] Accelerometer, Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-21 13:20         ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Jean Delvare
2008-05-21 13:20           ` [lm-sensors] Accelerometer, Jean Delvare
2008-05-21 13:49     ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Dmitry Torokhov
2008-05-21 13:49       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2008-05-21 13:49       ` [lm-sensors] Accelerometer, Dmitry Torokhov
2008-05-21 14:09       ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-05-21 14:09         ` [lm-sensors] Accelerometer, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found]       ` <20080521093520.ZZRA012-NG0XCrj25/nJrYCpivWRnl5pS2h4L8biXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-27 17:16         ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Ben Dooks
2008-05-27 17:16           ` [spi-devel-general] " Ben Dooks
2008-05-27 17:16           ` [lm-sensors] [spi-devel-general] Accelerometer, Ben Dooks
     [not found]           ` <20080527171656.GA870-SMNkleLxa3Z6Wcw2j4pizdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-27 19:01             ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Dmitry Torokhov
2008-05-27 19:01               ` [spi-devel-general] " Dmitry Torokhov
2008-05-27 19:01               ` [lm-sensors] [spi-devel-general] Accelerometer, Dmitry Torokhov
2008-05-22  0:52     ` David Brownell [this message]
2008-05-22  0:52       ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel David Brownell
2008-05-22  0:52       ` [lm-sensors] Accelerometer, David Brownell
     [not found]       ` <200805211752.15670.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-22  9:35         ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-22  9:35           ` [spi-devel-general] " Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-22  9:35           ` [lm-sensors] [spi-devel-general] Accelerometer, Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]           ` <48353E45.2080903-KWPb1pKIrIJaa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-26 16:23             ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-26 16:23               ` [spi-devel-general] " Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-26 16:23               ` [lm-sensors] [spi-devel-general] Accelerometer, Jonathan Cameron
2008-06-26 18:01   ` Accelerometer etc subsystem (Update on progress) Jonathan Cameron
2008-06-26 18:01     ` [lm-sensors] " Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]     ` <4863D97A.9090102-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-26 18:26       ` Jonathan Cameron
2008-06-26 18:26         ` Jonathan Cameron
2008-06-26 18:26         ` [lm-sensors] " Jonathan Cameron
2008-06-27  2:39     ` Randy Dunlap
2008-06-27  2:39       ` [lm-sensors] " Randy Dunlap
2008-06-27  3:29     ` Ben Nizette
2008-06-27  3:29       ` [lm-sensors] " Ben Nizette
     [not found]       ` <1214537367.8462.157.camel-L9Ekdhw1/RnCa3F4uneLBw@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-27  9:45         ` Jonathan Cameron
2008-06-27  9:45           ` Jonathan Cameron
2008-06-27  9:45           ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]           ` <4864B6D6.3020509-KWPb1pKIrIJaa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-28  8:34             ` Ben Nizette
2008-06-28  8:34               ` Ben Nizette
2008-06-28  8:34               ` Ben Nizette
     [not found]               ` <1214642057.4265.7.camel-L9Ekdhw1/RnCa3F4uneLBw@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-28 15:34                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2008-06-28 15:34                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2008-06-28 15:34                   ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found] ` <4832A211.4040206-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-20 17:50   ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel mark gross
2008-05-20 17:50     ` mark gross
2008-05-20 17:50     ` [lm-sensors] Accelerometer, mark gross
     [not found]     ` <20080520175041.GA30909-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-21  9:40       ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-21  9:40         ` [spi-devel-general] " Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-21  9:40         ` [lm-sensors] [spi-devel-general] Accelerometer, Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]         ` <4833EE22.80502-KWPb1pKIrIJaa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-27 15:43           ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel mark gross
2008-05-27 15:43             ` [spi-devel-general] " mark gross
2008-05-27 15:43             ` [lm-sensors] [spi-devel-general] Accelerometer, mark gross
     [not found]             ` <20080527154331.GA29868-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-29 11:57               ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-29 11:57                 ` [spi-devel-general] " Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-29 11:57                 ` [lm-sensors] [spi-devel-general] Accelerometer, Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-22  0:53       ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel David Brownell
2008-05-22  0:53         ` David Brownell
2008-05-22  0:53         ` [lm-sensors] Accelerometer, David Brownell
2008-05-27 15:56         ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel mark gross
2008-05-27 15:56           ` [lm-sensors] Accelerometer, mark gross
     [not found]           ` <20080527155641.GB29868-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-27 23:42             ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel David Brownell
2008-05-27 23:42               ` David Brownell
2008-05-27 23:42               ` [lm-sensors] Accelerometer, David Brownell
2008-05-27 16:44   ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Anton Vorontsov
2008-05-27 16:44     ` [spi-devel-general] " Anton Vorontsov
2008-05-27 16:44     ` [lm-sensors] [spi-devel-general] Accelerometer, Anton Vorontsov
2008-05-27 16:50     ` [spi-devel-general] Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Ben Dooks
2008-05-27 16:50       ` [lm-sensors] [spi-devel-general] Accelerometer, Ben Dooks
2008-05-27 17:01       ` [spi-devel-general] Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Anton Vorontsov
2008-05-27 17:01         ` [lm-sensors] [spi-devel-general] Accelerometer, Anton Vorontsov
     [not found]       ` <20080527165021.GA22585-SMNkleLxa3Z6Wcw2j4pizdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-27 18:00         ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-27 18:00           ` [spi-devel-general] " Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-27 18:00           ` [lm-sensors] [spi-devel-general] Accelerometer, Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]           ` <483C4C58.5080301-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-27 18:12             ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Ben Dooks
2008-05-27 18:12               ` [spi-devel-general] " Ben Dooks
2008-05-27 18:12               ` [lm-sensors] [spi-devel-general] Accelerometer, Ben Dooks
     [not found]     ` <20080527164415.GA27584-PHTr8nzUCjejyJ0x5qLZdcN33GVbZNy3@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-27 17:59       ` Accelerometer, Gyros and ADC's etc within the kernel Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-27 17:59         ` [spi-devel-general] " Jonathan Cameron
2008-05-27 17:59         ` [lm-sensors] [spi-devel-general] Accelerometer, Jonathan Cameron

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