From: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
To: andrea@qumranet.com
Cc: amit.shah@qumranet.com, andi@firstfloor.org, benami@il.ibm.com,
avi@qumranet.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
aliguori@us.ibm.com, allen.m.kay@intel.com, muli@il.ibm.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: [PATCH] reserved-ram for pci-passthrough without VT-d capable hardware
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:22:07 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080730232028R.tomof@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080730135846.GB11494@duo.random>
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:58:46 +0200
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:50:43AM +0530, Amit Shah wrote:
> > * On Tuesday 29 July 2008 18:47:35 Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > > I'm not so interested to go there right now, because while this code
> > > > is useful right now because the majority of systems out there lacks
> > > > VT-d/iommu, I suspect this code could be nuked in the long
> > > > run when all systems will ship with that, which is why I kept it all
> > >
> > > Actually at least on Intel platforms and if you exclude the lowest end
> > > VT-d is shipping universally for quite some time now. If you
> > > buy a Intel box today or bought it in the last year the chances are pretty
> > > high that it has VT-d support.
> >
> > I think you mean VT-x, which is virtualization extensions for the x86
> > architecture. VT-d is virtualization extensions for devices (IOMMU).
>
> I think Andi understood VT-d right but even if he was right that every
> reader of this email that is buying a new VT-x system today is also
> almost guaranteed to get a VT-d motherboard (which I disagree unless
> you buy some really expensive toy), there are current large
> installations of VT-x systems that lacks VT-d and that with recent
> current dual/quadcore cpus are very fast and will be used for the next
> couple of years and they will not upgrade just the motherboard to use
> pci-passthrough.
Today, very inexpensive desktops (for example, Dell OptiPlex 755) have
VT-d support.
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From: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
To: andrea@qumranet.com
Cc: amit.shah@qumranet.com, andi@firstfloor.org, benami@il.ibm.com,
avi@qumranet.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
aliguori@us.ibm.com, allen.m.kay@intel.com, muli@il.ibm.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: [PATCH] reserved-ram for pci-passthrough without VT-d capable hardware
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:22:07 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080730232028R.tomof@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080730135846.GB11494@duo.random>
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:58:46 +0200
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:50:43AM +0530, Amit Shah wrote:
> > * On Tuesday 29 July 2008 18:47:35 Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > > I'm not so interested to go there right now, because while this code
> > > > is useful right now because the majority of systems out there lacks
> > > > VT-d/iommu, I suspect this code could be nuked in the long
> > > > run when all systems will ship with that, which is why I kept it all
> > >
> > > Actually at least on Intel platforms and if you exclude the lowest end
> > > VT-d is shipping universally for quite some time now. If you
> > > buy a Intel box today or bought it in the last year the chances are pretty
> > > high that it has VT-d support.
> >
> > I think you mean VT-x, which is virtualization extensions for the x86
> > architecture. VT-d is virtualization extensions for devices (IOMMU).
>
> I think Andi understood VT-d right but even if he was right that every
> reader of this email that is buying a new VT-x system today is also
> almost guaranteed to get a VT-d motherboard (which I disagree unless
> you buy some really expensive toy), there are current large
> installations of VT-x systems that lacks VT-d and that with recent
> current dual/quadcore cpus are very fast and will be used for the next
> couple of years and they will not upgrade just the motherboard to use
> pci-passthrough.
Today, very inexpensive desktops (for example, Dell OptiPlex 755) have
VT-d support.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-30 14:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-23 14:52 KVM: PCIPT: direct mmio pfn check benami
2008-06-23 14:52 ` [PATCH] " benami
2008-06-25 0:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-06-25 1:18 ` [PATCH] reserved-ram for pci-passthrough without VT-d capable hardware Andrea Arcangeli
2008-06-25 1:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli, Andrea Arcangeli
2008-06-25 1:28 ` [PATCH] reserved-ram kvm-userland patch Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-29 12:11 ` [PATCH] reserved-ram for pci-passthrough without VT-d capable hardware Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-29 12:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli, Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-29 12:43 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-29 12:43 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-29 12:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-29 12:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-29 13:17 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-29 13:17 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-30 6:20 ` Amit Shah
2008-07-30 6:20 ` Amit Shah
2008-07-30 12:27 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-30 12:27 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-30 13:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-30 13:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-30 14:16 ` Dor Laor
2008-07-30 14:16 ` Dor Laor
2008-07-30 14:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-30 14:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-07-30 14:22 ` FUJITA Tomonori [this message]
2008-07-30 14:22 ` FUJITA Tomonori
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-27 17:00 Passera, Pablo R
2009-04-27 17:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-28 13:35 ` Passera, Pablo R
2009-04-28 18:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-05-05 19:53 ` Passera, Pablo R
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