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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Jared Hulbert <jaredeh@gmail.com>
Cc: "Greg Ungerer" <gerg@snapgear.com>,
	Linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mtd <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>,
	tim.bird@am.sony.com, cotte@de.ibm.com, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] AXFS: Advanced XIP filesystem
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:37:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080822183713.GC24179@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6934efce0808221116w76a662b0t954b0922b69d3232@mail.gmail.com>

Jared Hulbert wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org> wrote:
> > Greg Ungerer wrote:
> >> One thing for sure is that many people who do non-MMU setups
> >> are interested in XIP to get the space savings. These are very
> >> often small devices with very constrained RAM and flash. (For
> >> whatever it is worth single NOR flash only boards are common in
> >> these smaller form factors :-)
> >
> > I'm using XIP on a device with 32MB RAM.  The reason I use it is
> > _partly_ to save RAM, partly because programs start about 10 times
> > faster (reading NOR flash is slow and I keep the XIP region in RAM)
> 
> What kind of NOR you using?  That is not what I measure with fast
> synchronous burst NOR's.

I think the "fast" in "fast synchronous" gives it away :-)

I'm using Spansion MirrorBit S29GL128N, which reads at about 0.6 MByte/s.

Not because they're good, but because that's what the board I'm coding
for has on it.  I presume they were cheap and familiar to the board
designers.  (There is 32MB of RAM to play with after all.)

So start a sequence of Busybox processes from a shell script is noticable,
if it reads from NOR each time.

Oh, and it's a 166MHz ARM, so it's quite capable of decompressing
faster than the NOR can deliver.

-- Jamie

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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Jared Hulbert <jaredeh@gmail.com>
Cc: cotte@de.ibm.com, "Greg Ungerer" <gerg@snapgear.com>,
	linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au,
	"Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>,
	Linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mtd <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	tim.bird@am.sony.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] AXFS: Advanced XIP filesystem
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:37:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080822183713.GC24179@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6934efce0808221116w76a662b0t954b0922b69d3232@mail.gmail.com>

Jared Hulbert wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org> wrote:
> > Greg Ungerer wrote:
> >> One thing for sure is that many people who do non-MMU setups
> >> are interested in XIP to get the space savings. These are very
> >> often small devices with very constrained RAM and flash. (For
> >> whatever it is worth single NOR flash only boards are common in
> >> these smaller form factors :-)
> >
> > I'm using XIP on a device with 32MB RAM.  The reason I use it is
> > _partly_ to save RAM, partly because programs start about 10 times
> > faster (reading NOR flash is slow and I keep the XIP region in RAM)
> 
> What kind of NOR you using?  That is not what I measure with fast
> synchronous burst NOR's.

I think the "fast" in "fast synchronous" gives it away :-)

I'm using Spansion MirrorBit S29GL128N, which reads at about 0.6 MByte/s.

Not because they're good, but because that's what the board I'm coding
for has on it.  I presume they were cheap and familiar to the board
designers.  (There is 32MB of RAM to play with after all.)

So start a sequence of Busybox processes from a shell script is noticable,
if it reads from NOR each time.

Oh, and it's a 166MHz ARM, so it's quite capable of decompressing
faster than the NOR can deliver.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-22 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-21  5:44 [PATCH 00/10] AXFS: Advanced XIP filesystem Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21  5:44 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21  6:32 ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2008-08-21  6:32   ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2008-08-21 19:32   ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 19:32     ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22  2:04     ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-22  2:04       ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-21  8:39 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21  8:39   ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 14:19   ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 14:19     ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 14:31     ` Leon Woestenberg
2008-08-21 14:31       ` Leon Woestenberg
2008-08-21 14:42       ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 14:42         ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 14:49       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-21 14:49         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-21 10:25 ` Carsten Otte
2008-08-21 10:25   ` Carsten Otte
2008-08-21 10:43   ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-21 10:43     ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-21 12:53     ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 12:53       ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 14:12       ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 14:12         ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 14:14         ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 14:14           ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 14:13     ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 14:13       ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22  2:32       ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-22  2:32         ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-21 14:30   ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 14:30     ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 11:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-21 11:07   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-21 14:11   ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 14:11     ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22  0:12     ` Greg Ungerer
2008-08-22  0:12       ` Greg Ungerer
2008-08-22  2:48       ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22  2:48         ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-25  6:35         ` Greg Ungerer
2008-08-25  6:35           ` Greg Ungerer
2008-08-25 11:43           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-25 11:43             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-25 14:02             ` Greg Ungerer
2008-08-25 14:02               ` Greg Ungerer
2008-08-22 18:13       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-22 18:13         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-22 18:16         ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22 18:16           ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22 18:37           ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-08-22 18:37             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-22 18:43             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-22 18:43               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-12 21:52               ` Jared Hulbert
2008-09-12 21:52                 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-09-15 16:34                 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-15 16:34                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-15 19:43                   ` Jared Hulbert
2008-09-15 19:43                     ` Jared Hulbert
2008-09-19 19:20                     ` Trent Piepho
2008-09-19 19:20                       ` Trent Piepho
2008-09-16  6:57                   ` Ricard Wanderlof
2008-09-16  6:57                     ` Ricard Wanderlof
2008-09-16  6:57                     ` Ricard Wanderlof
2008-09-16 15:30                     ` Jared Hulbert
2008-09-16 15:30                       ` Jared Hulbert
2008-09-12 20:17             ` Jared Hulbert
2008-09-12 20:17               ` Jared Hulbert
2008-09-15 16:40               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-15 16:40                 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-21 23:46   ` Greg Ungerer
2008-08-21 23:46     ` Greg Ungerer
2008-08-22 18:10     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-22 18:10       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-22 14:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-22 14:54   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-22 15:19   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-22 15:19     ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-22 16:51   ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22 16:51     ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-25  9:37     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-25  9:37       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-25  9:37       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-25 10:52       ` Carsten Otte
2008-08-25 10:52         ` Carsten Otte
2008-08-25 12:16     ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-25 12:16       ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-28 15:40     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-28 15:40       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-09-02 15:37       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-09-02 15:37         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-09-02 16:44         ` Jared Hulbert
2008-09-02 16:44           ` Jared Hulbert
2008-09-02 17:15           ` Jörn Engel
2008-09-02 17:15             ` Jörn Engel
2008-09-02 17:15             ` Jörn Engel
2008-09-02 17:47             ` Jared Hulbert
2008-09-02 17:47               ` Jared Hulbert
2008-09-02 18:33           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-09-02 18:33             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-22 22:09   ` Will Marone
2008-08-22 22:09     ` Will Marone
2008-08-25  7:23     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-25  7:23       ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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