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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <lrodriguez@atheros.com>
To: Tomas Winkler <tomasw@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bruno Randolf <bruno@thinktube.com>
Subject: Re: pull request: wireless-2.6 2008-08-26
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:31:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080827233103.GE5927@tesla> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ba2fa240808271611v382631ecn2a24e2816562d434@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 04:11:15PM -0700, Tomas Winkler wrote:
> if (beacon_timestamp > rx_timestamp)
>     merge
> 
> The patch from Assaf just disable reporting RX timestamp to mac and
> thus disabling merging which gives incorrect spec behavior but smooth
> traffic.

We *should follow the spec*.

> Actually we've checked few cards including broadcom and various
> windows NICs

What are windows NICs?

> and non of them implements this correctly so this WA is
> probably the solution.

Disagreed! If there is hardware which is not capable of handling this
we should simply have a HW flag which specifies this to handle this as a
work around (WA). Just because some cards are not capable it doesn't
mean it should impose that on the rest.

> Other solution would be to mark leader with highest TSF and not
> reconnecting to the same station again and again.
> 
> Last solution would be to remove this merging all together but then
> I'm not sure if Bruno added this code just implement the spec or
> really tested it with any hardware. I'm not sure if any vendor
> implements PS in IBSS so this merging is probably not important
> anyway.

Absolutely not! IBSS merge is per spec, otherwise you don't really have
a real IBSS.

  Luis

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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <lrodriguez-DlyHzToyqoxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Tomas Winkler <tomasw-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Michael Buesch <mb-fseUSCV1ubazQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"John W. Linville"
	<linville-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org"
	<davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Bruno Randolf <bruno-L9ZBdB2wSWtl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: pull request: wireless-2.6 2008-08-26
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:31:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080827233103.GE5927@tesla> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ba2fa240808271611v382631ecn2a24e2816562d434-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 04:11:15PM -0700, Tomas Winkler wrote:
> if (beacon_timestamp > rx_timestamp)
>     merge
> 
> The patch from Assaf just disable reporting RX timestamp to mac and
> thus disabling merging which gives incorrect spec behavior but smooth
> traffic.

We *should follow the spec*.

> Actually we've checked few cards including broadcom and various
> windows NICs

What are windows NICs?

> and non of them implements this correctly so this WA is
> probably the solution.

Disagreed! If there is hardware which is not capable of handling this
we should simply have a HW flag which specifies this to handle this as a
work around (WA). Just because some cards are not capable it doesn't
mean it should impose that on the rest.

> Other solution would be to mark leader with highest TSF and not
> reconnecting to the same station again and again.
> 
> Last solution would be to remove this merging all together but then
> I'm not sure if Bruno added this code just implement the spec or
> really tested it with any hardware. I'm not sure if any vendor
> implements PS in IBSS so this merging is probably not important
> anyway.

Absolutely not! IBSS merge is per spec, otherwise you don't really have
a real IBSS.

  Luis
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-27 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-27  1:30 pull request: wireless-2.6 2008-08-26 John W. Linville
2008-08-27  7:38 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-27  7:38   ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-27  8:40   ` David Miller
2008-08-27  8:40     ` David Miller
2008-08-27  9:13     ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-27 11:10     ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-08-27 10:05       ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-27 10:10         ` Johannes Berg
2008-08-27 10:33           ` David Miller
2008-08-27 10:33             ` David Miller
2008-08-27 11:34           ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-27 11:34             ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-27 11:45             ` David Miller
2008-08-27 12:26               ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-27 12:26                 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-27 13:10             ` Michael Buesch
2008-08-27 13:10               ` Michael Buesch
2008-08-27 14:55               ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-27 15:22                 ` Michael Buesch
2008-08-27 15:22                   ` Michael Buesch
2008-08-27 15:45                   ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-27 15:45                     ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-27 10:32         ` David Miller
2008-08-27 10:32           ` David Miller
2008-08-27 11:42           ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-27 13:57         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-27 13:57           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-27 11:39 ` David Miller
2008-08-27 19:26 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-27 20:25   ` Michael Buesch
2008-08-27 20:25     ` Michael Buesch
2008-08-27 23:11     ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-27 23:11       ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-27 23:31       ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2008-08-27 23:31         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-08-28  0:19         ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-28  1:30           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-08-28  1:30             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-08-28  7:59             ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-28  7:59               ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-28 10:35         ` Bruno Randolf
2008-08-28 10:35           ` Bruno Randolf
2008-08-28 10:52           ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-28 11:13             ` Bruno Randolf
2008-08-28 11:13               ` Bruno Randolf
2008-08-28  8:31       ` Michael Buesch
2008-08-28  8:31         ` Michael Buesch
2008-08-28  9:29         ` Tomas Winkler

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