From: Andrey Mirkin <major@openvz.org>
To: devel@openvz.org
Cc: Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>,
Andrey Mirkin <major@openvz.org>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Devel] Re: [PATCH 0/9] OpenVZ kernel based checkpointing/restart
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:59:27 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200809031759.29132.major@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48BE82F9.4020808@fr.ibm.com>
On Wednesday 03 September 2008 16:28 Cedric Le Goater wrote:
> Andrey Mirkin wrote:
> > This patchset introduces kernel based checkpointing/restart as it is
> > implemented in OpenVZ project. This patchset has limited functionality
> > and are able to checkpoint/restart only single process. Recently Oren
> > Laaden sent another kernel based implementation of checkpoint/restart.
> > The main differences between this patchset and Oren's patchset are:
> >
> > * In this patchset checkpointing initiated not from the process
> > (right now we do not have a container, only namespaces), Oren's patchset
> > performs checkpointing from the process context.
> >
> > * Restart in this patchset is initiated from process, which restarts a
> > new process (in new namespaces) with saved state. Oren's patchset uses
> > the same process from which restart was initiated and restore saved state
> > over it.
> >
> > * Checkpoint/restart functionality in this patchset is implemented as a
> > kernel module
>
> why ? Do we really think that C/R implementations will be so different that
> we will need C/R ops to support all of them ? I imagine that there could be
> different models :
>
> 1. brute force : dump it all and kill
> 2. incremental
> 3. live migration
> ...
>
> But I see all of them really tied to the kernel internals.
>
> The first issues I see with this direction are some EXPORT_SYMBOL() that
> would be useless without a module.
Checkpoint/restart functionality is implemented as a kernel module to provide
more flexibility during development process - you can easily unload module,
fix what you need and load module again, you do not need to reboot you server
in this case. We have discussed this question during Container's mini summit
on OLS-2008 and we have found out that it will be convenient to have such an
ability.
>
> > As checkpointing is initiated not from the process which state should be
> > saved we should freeze a process before saving its state. Right now
> > Container Freezer from Matt Helsley can be used for this.
>
> OK that's integrated and Daniel's tools :
>
> http://lxc.cvs.sourceforge.net/lxc/
>
> one more reason to work on integration :)
Yes, you're right :)
Regards,
Andrey
>
> > This patchset introduce only a concept how kernel based
> > checkpointing/restart can be implemented and are able to
> > checkpoint/restart only a single process with simple VMAs.
> >
> > I've tried to split my patchset in small patches to make review more
> > easier. _______________________________________________
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2008-09-03 10:57 [PATCH 0/9] OpenVZ kernel based checkpointing/restart Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57 ` [PATCH 1/9] Introduce trivial sys_checkpoint and sys_restore system calls Andrey Mirkin
[not found] ` <1220439476-16465-2-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57 ` [PATCH 2/9] Make checkpoint/restart functionality modular Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 11:44 ` [PATCH 1/9] Introduce trivial sys_checkpoint and sys_restore system calls Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-03 10:57 ` [PATCH 2/9] Make checkpoint/restart functionality modular Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57 ` [PATCH 3/9] Introduce context structure needed during checkpointing/restart Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57 ` [PATCH 4/9] Introduce container dump function Andrey Mirkin
[not found] ` <1220439476-16465-5-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57 ` [PATCH 5/9] Introduce function to dump process Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57 ` Andrey Mirkin
[not found] ` <1220439476-16465-6-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57 ` [PATCH 6/9] Introduce functions to dump mm Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57 ` Andrey Mirkin
[not found] ` <1220439476-16465-7-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57 ` [PATCH 7/9] Introduce function for restarting a container Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57 ` Andrey Mirkin
[not found] ` <1220439476-16465-8-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57 ` [PATCH 8/9] Introduce functions to restart a process Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57 ` Andrey Mirkin
[not found] ` <1220439476-16465-9-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57 ` [PATCH 9/9] Introduce functions to restore mm Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:32 ` [PATCH 8/9] Introduce functions to restart a process Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:32 ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-13 17:34 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20080903143248.GU14473-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-13 17:34 ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-03 14:17 ` [PATCH 6/9] Introduce functions to dump mm Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:17 ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:23 ` [PATCH 4/9] Introduce container dump function Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-03 14:23 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20080903142308.GB13425-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:45 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:45 ` Andrey Mirkin
[not found] ` <1220439476-16465-4-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 12:29 ` [PATCH 3/9] Introduce context structure needed during checkpointing/restart Matthieu Fertré
2008-09-03 12:29 ` Matthieu Fertré
[not found] ` <48BE8315.6030907-7Ky3UMAtGjA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:11 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:11 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 13:56 ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:13 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-03 13:56 ` Louis Rilling
[not found] ` <20080903135616.GR14473-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:07 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:07 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:13 ` Cedric Le Goater
[not found] ` <48BE9B74.7010600-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:29 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:29 ` Andrey Mirkin
[not found] ` <1220439476-16465-3-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:27 ` [PATCH 2/9] Make checkpoint/restart functionality modular Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-03 14:27 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20080903142720.GC13425-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:51 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:51 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 11:44 ` [PATCH 1/9] Introduce trivial sys_checkpoint and sys_restore system calls Cedric Le Goater
[not found] ` <48BE7885.3070609-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 13:05 ` [Devel] " Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 13:05 ` Andrey Mirkin
[not found] ` <1220439476-16465-1-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 12:28 ` [PATCH 0/9] OpenVZ kernel based checkpointing/restart Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-03 13:49 ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-04 8:14 ` Oren Laadan
2008-09-04 14:05 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-17 23:33 ` Dave Hansen
2008-09-03 12:28 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-03 13:59 ` Andrey Mirkin [this message]
[not found] ` <200809031759.29132.major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 22:55 ` [Devel] " Dave Hansen
2008-09-04 22:55 ` Dave Hansen
[not found] ` <48BE82F9.4020808-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 13:59 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:18 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-03 14:18 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-03 13:49 ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:06 ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:19 ` Andrey Mirkin
[not found] ` <20080903140636.GS14473-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:19 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:26 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-03 14:26 ` Cedric Le Goater
[not found] ` <48BE9E95.3020706-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:53 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:53 ` Andrey Mirkin
[not found] ` <20080903134951.GQ14473-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:06 ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-04 8:14 ` Oren Laadan
2008-09-04 14:05 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-17 23:33 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-20 11:10 ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-20 11:10 ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-20 13:25 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <48FC86B2.8000606-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 13:48 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-20 13:48 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-20 13:49 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <48FC8C30.6040409-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 13:49 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-20 15:53 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-20 15:53 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-20 16:51 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <48FCA97C.1040108-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 16:37 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-20 16:37 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <48FCB3CC.9030804-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 17:23 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-20 17:23 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20081020172358.GA29092-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-21 0:18 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-21 0:18 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <48FD1FBC.5050408-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-21 0:58 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-21 13:24 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-21 0:58 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-21 13:24 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-27 14:45 ` [Devel] " Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-27 14:45 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-20 16:51 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-21 9:36 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-21 9:36 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-20 16:36 ` Dave Hansen
[not found] ` <20081020111002.GQ15171-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 13:25 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-20 16:36 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-20 12:14 ` [Devel] " Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-20 15:55 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-27 14:07 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-27 14:07 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-27 14:39 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-30 6:02 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-30 11:47 ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-30 17:08 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-30 18:01 ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-30 18:01 ` Louis Rilling
[not found] ` <20081030180133.GN15171-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30 18:28 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-30 18:28 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <20081030114747.GL15171-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30 17:08 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-30 17:45 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-30 17:45 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4909F2B5.7040907-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30 18:14 ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-30 18:14 ` Louis Rilling
[not found] ` <20081030181418.GO15171-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30 18:32 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-30 18:32 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4909FDD3.5090806-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-31 10:37 ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-31 10:37 ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-30 14:08 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <200810300902.47067.major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30 11:47 ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-30 14:08 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-30 17:03 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-30 17:03 ` Dave Hansen
[not found] ` <4905D2AD.1070309-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30 6:02 ` Andrey Mirkin
[not found] ` <200810271707.13580.major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-27 14:39 ` Oren Laadan
2008-11-03 19:35 ` Oren Laadan
2008-11-03 19:35 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <200810201614.36911.major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 15:55 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-20 17:17 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-20 17:17 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-27 14:38 ` Andrey Mirkin
[not found] ` <48FCBD24.7070902-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-27 14:38 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-20 12:14 ` Andrey Mirkin
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