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From: Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>
To: Louis.Rilling@kerlabs.com
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Andrey Mirkin <major@openvz.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] OpenVZ kernel based checkpointing/restart
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:25:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48FC86B2.8000606@fr.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081020111002.GQ15171@hawkmoon.kerlabs.com>

Louis Rilling wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 04:33:03PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 14:57 +0400, Andrey Mirkin wrote:
>>> This patchset introduces kernel based checkpointing/restart as it is
>>> implemented in OpenVZ project. This patchset has limited functionality and
>>> are able to checkpoint/restart only single process. Recently Oren Laaden
>>> sent another kernel based implementation of checkpoint/restart. The main
>>> differences between this patchset and Oren's patchset are:
>> Hi Andrey,
>>
>> I'm curious what you want to happen with this patch set.  Is there
>> something specific in Oren's set that deficient which you need
>> implemented?  Are there some technical reasons you prefer this code?
> 
> To be fair, and since (IIRC) the initial intent was to start with OpenVZ's
> approach, shouldn't Oren answer the same questions with respect to Andrey's
> patchset?
> 
> I'm afraid that we are forgetting to take the best from both approaches...

I agree with Louis.

I played with Oren's patchset and tryed to port it on x86_64. I was able 
to sys_checkpoint/sys_restart but if you remove the restoring of the 
general registers, the restart still works. I am not an expert on asm, 
but my hypothesis is when we call sys_checkpoint the registers are saved 
on the stack by the syscall and when we restore the memory of the 
process, we restore the stack and the stacked registers are restored 
when exiting the sys_restart. That make me feel there is an important 
gap between external checkpoint and internal checkpoint.

Dmitry's patchset is nice too, but IMO, it goes too far from what we 
decided to do at the container mini-summit. I think there are a lot of 
design questions to be solved before going further.

IMHO we should look at Dmitry patchset and merge the external checkpoint 
code to Oren's patchset in order to checkpoint *one* process and have 
the process to restart itself. At this point, we can begin to talk about 
the restart itself, shall we have the kernel to fork the processes to be 
restarted ? shall we fork from userspace and implement some mechanism to 
have each processes to restart themselves ? etc...









  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-20 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-03 10:57 [PATCH 0/9] OpenVZ kernel based checkpointing/restart Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57 ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57 ` [PATCH 1/9] Introduce trivial sys_checkpoint and sys_restore system calls Andrey Mirkin
     [not found]   ` <1220439476-16465-2-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57     ` [PATCH 2/9] Make checkpoint/restart functionality modular Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 11:44     ` [PATCH 1/9] Introduce trivial sys_checkpoint and sys_restore system calls Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-03 10:57   ` [PATCH 2/9] Make checkpoint/restart functionality modular Andrey Mirkin
     [not found]     ` <1220439476-16465-3-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57       ` [PATCH 3/9] Introduce context structure needed during checkpointing/restart Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:27       ` [PATCH 2/9] Make checkpoint/restart functionality modular Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-03 10:57     ` [PATCH 3/9] Introduce context structure needed during checkpointing/restart Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57       ` [PATCH 4/9] Introduce container dump function Andrey Mirkin
     [not found]         ` <1220439476-16465-5-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57           ` [PATCH 5/9] Introduce function to dump process Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57             ` Andrey Mirkin
     [not found]             ` <1220439476-16465-6-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57               ` [PATCH 6/9] Introduce functions to dump mm Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57                 ` Andrey Mirkin
     [not found]                 ` <1220439476-16465-7-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57                   ` [PATCH 7/9] Introduce function for restarting a container Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57                     ` Andrey Mirkin
     [not found]                     ` <1220439476-16465-8-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57                       ` [PATCH 8/9] Introduce functions to restart a process Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57                         ` Andrey Mirkin
     [not found]                         ` <1220439476-16465-9-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57                           ` [PATCH 9/9] Introduce functions to restore mm Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 10:57                             ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:32                           ` [PATCH 8/9] Introduce functions to restart a process Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:32                         ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                           ` <20080903143248.GU14473-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-13 17:34                             ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-13 17:34                           ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-03 14:17                   ` [PATCH 6/9] Introduce functions to dump mm Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:17                 ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:23           ` [PATCH 4/9] Introduce container dump function Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-03 14:23         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]           ` <20080903142308.GB13425-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:45             ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:45               ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 13:56       ` [PATCH 3/9] Introduce context structure needed during checkpointing/restart Louis Rilling
     [not found]         ` <20080903135616.GR14473-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:07           ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:07             ` Andrey Mirkin
     [not found]       ` <1220439476-16465-4-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57         ` [PATCH 4/9] Introduce container dump function Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 12:29         ` [PATCH 3/9] Introduce context structure needed during checkpointing/restart Matthieu Fertré
2008-09-03 12:29           ` Matthieu Fertré
     [not found]           ` <48BE8315.6030907-7Ky3UMAtGjA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:11             ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:11               ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 13:56         ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:13         ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-03 14:13       ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]         ` <48BE9B74.7010600-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:29           ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:29             ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:27     ` [PATCH 2/9] Make checkpoint/restart functionality modular Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]       ` <20080903142720.GC13425-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:51         ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:51           ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 11:44   ` [PATCH 1/9] Introduce trivial sys_checkpoint and sys_restore system calls Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-03 13:05     ` [Devel] " Andrey Mirkin
     [not found]     ` <48BE7885.3070609-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 13:05       ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 12:28 ` [PATCH 0/9] OpenVZ kernel based checkpointing/restart Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-03 13:59   ` [Devel] " Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-04 22:55     ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]     ` <200809031759.29132.major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-04 22:55       ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]   ` <48BE82F9.4020808-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 13:59     ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:18     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-03 14:18   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-03 13:49 ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]   ` <20080903134951.GQ14473-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:06     ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:06   ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-03 14:19     ` Andrey Mirkin
     [not found]     ` <20080903140636.GS14473-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:19       ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:26       ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-03 14:26     ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]       ` <48BE9E95.3020706-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 14:53         ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 14:53           ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-04  8:14 ` Oren Laadan
2008-09-04 14:05 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-17 23:33 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-20 11:10   ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-20 13:25     ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
     [not found]       ` <48FC86B2.8000606-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 13:48         ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-20 13:48           ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]           ` <48FC8C30.6040409-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 13:49             ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-20 13:49           ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-20 15:53         ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-20 15:53           ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-20 16:51           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]           ` <48FCA97C.1040108-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 16:37             ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-20 16:37               ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]               ` <48FCB3CC.9030804-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 17:23                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-20 17:23                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-21  0:18                   ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-21  0:58                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                     ` <48FD1FBC.5050408-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-21  0:58                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-21 13:24                       ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-21 13:24                     ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                   ` <20081020172358.GA29092-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-21  0:18                     ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-27 14:45                 ` [Devel] " Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-27 14:45               ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-20 16:51             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-21  9:36             ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-21  9:36           ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]     ` <20081020111002.GQ15171-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 13:25       ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-20 16:36       ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-20 16:36     ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-20 11:10   ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-20 12:14   ` [Devel] " Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-20 12:14   ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-20 15:55     ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-27 14:07       ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-27 14:39         ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-30  6:02           ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-30 11:47             ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-30 17:08               ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-30 18:01                 ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                   ` <20081030180133.GN15171-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30 18:28                     ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-30 18:28                   ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-30 18:01                 ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-30 17:45               ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                 ` <4909F2B5.7040907-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30 18:14                   ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-30 18:14                     ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]                     ` <20081030181418.GO15171-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30 18:32                       ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-30 18:32                     ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                       ` <4909FDD3.5090806-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-31 10:37                         ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-31 10:37                       ` Louis Rilling
     [not found]               ` <20081030114747.GL15171-Hu8+6S1rdjywhHL9vcZdMVaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30 17:08                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-30 17:45                 ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-30 14:08             ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]             ` <200810300902.47067.major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30 11:47               ` Louis Rilling
2008-10-30 14:08               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-30 17:03               ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-30 17:03                 ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]           ` <4905D2AD.1070309-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-30  6:02             ` Andrey Mirkin
     [not found]         ` <200810271707.13580.major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-27 14:39           ` Oren Laadan
2008-11-03 19:35           ` Oren Laadan
2008-11-03 19:35         ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-27 14:07       ` Andrey Mirkin
2008-10-20 17:17     ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-27 14:38       ` Andrey Mirkin
     [not found]       ` <48FCBD24.7070902-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-27 14:38         ` Andrey Mirkin
     [not found]     ` <200810201614.36911.major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-20 15:55       ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-20 17:17       ` Oren Laadan
     [not found] ` <1220439476-16465-1-git-send-email-major-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-03 10:57   ` [PATCH 1/9] Introduce trivial sys_checkpoint and sys_restore system calls Andrey Mirkin
2008-09-03 12:28   ` [PATCH 0/9] OpenVZ kernel based checkpointing/restart Cedric Le Goater
2008-09-03 13:49   ` Louis Rilling
2008-09-04  8:14   ` Oren Laadan
2008-09-04 14:05   ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-17 23:33   ` Dave Hansen

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