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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:47:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081016154726.GA6331@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081016153053.GJ5834@nostromo.devel.redhat.com>

On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 11:30:53AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Greg KH (greg@kroah.com) said: 
> > Distros properly patch things and backport "urgent OpenSSL security
> > updates" to older versions of packages, so they would not run into this
> > problem.
> > 
> > Newer releases would run into this problem, but as almost all distros
> > have huge, easy to run, build systems, a change like this would show up
> > immediately and be fixed in a matter of hours, with the needed fixes
> > being pushed upstream to the various packages as needed.
> > 
> > So I really don't think this is much of a problem.
> > 
> > It's interesting that openssl doesn't just check for Linux 1.x and
> > assumes that Linux 9.23.12 will work just fine with what they are doing :)
> 
> Is it really worth the effort of having any such upstream have to
> quickly patch and release, when the only benefit listed (earlier in
> this thread) was to inform people how old their kernel is?

If we switch to a consecutive numbering scheme, which doesn't show the
"age" of the kernel, we would still have to patch such packages, so I
don't see the big difference.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-16 16:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-16  0:25 [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change Greg KH
2008-10-16  1:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-16  1:51   ` David Sanders
2008-10-16  2:18   ` Greg KH
2008-10-16  7:02 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2008-10-16  7:34   ` david
2008-10-18 21:44     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-19  1:52       ` david
2008-10-19  2:44         ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-16  8:21 ` el es
2008-10-16  9:09   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-16  9:33     ` el es
2008-10-16 10:05       ` el es
2008-10-16 10:14         ` Kristoffer Ericson
2008-10-16 17:30       ` david
2008-10-16  9:15 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-10-16 15:21   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-10-18 21:56   ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-16 12:49 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-16 15:17   ` Greg KH
2008-10-16 15:30     ` Bill Nottingham
2008-10-16 15:47       ` Greg KH [this message]
2008-10-16 17:16         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17  4:02           ` Greg KH
2008-10-17  4:26             ` Grant Coady
2008-10-17  4:53             ` Randy Dunlap
2008-10-17  9:31             ` Alan Cox
2008-10-17 16:40               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-17 17:42                 ` Greg KH
2008-10-18  7:18                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-18  7:38                     ` 2.6.28-rc1 --> 2.8.0-rc1; 2.6.27.y --> 2.6.28 [Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change] Dominik Brodowski
2008-10-18  7:47                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2008-10-20  3:48                     ` [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change Alexandre Oliva
2008-10-20  5:29                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-20  7:13                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2008-10-20 18:55                       ` Alex Howells
2008-10-20 20:21                         ` Greg KH
2008-10-21 19:52                           ` Alex Howells
2008-10-22  0:41                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-10-22  4:15                               ` Grant Coady
2008-10-22  8:58                               ` Alex Howells
2008-10-22  9:11                                 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-22 18:11                             ` Stefan Richter
2008-10-21 18:54                         ` Stefan Richter
2008-10-17 17:41               ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 19:45                 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-17 21:42                   ` Greg KH
2008-10-16 16:46     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17  3:47       ` Greg KH
2008-10-17  6:47         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17  7:55           ` Greg KH
2008-10-17  8:16             ` Steven Noonan
2008-10-17 17:46               ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 19:06                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-10-17 21:44                   ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 19:47                 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-17 21:44                   ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 22:14                     ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-10-17 22:49                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-18  1:23                       ` david
2008-10-18 23:14                         ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-19  1:50                           ` david
2008-10-19 12:51                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-19 16:29                             ` david
2008-10-19 17:45                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-19 17:47                                 ` david
2008-10-19 17:57                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-18  8:45                     ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 23:17                       ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-19  3:35                         ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-20 20:30                       ` Greg KH
2008-10-20 20:54                         ` Felipe Balbi
2008-10-20 21:06                           ` Greg KH
2008-10-20 21:58                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-10-20 22:24                             ` Felipe Balbi
2008-10-21 19:11                               ` Stefan Richter
2008-10-21 19:16                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2008-10-18 22:33                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-19 18:33                       ` Greg KH
2008-10-19 19:51                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-19 23:40                           ` david
2008-10-18 22:38                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-18  1:20               ` david
2008-10-18  8:32               ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-17  8:56             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17 10:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-17 11:18                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-10-17 11:26                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-17 11:32                     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-10-17 15:30               ` Chris Friesen
2008-10-17 17:45               ` Greg KH
2008-10-18  9:01               ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 10:04                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-18 11:08                   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 11:50                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-18 12:28                       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 13:48                         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-18 14:13                           ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-16 14:26 ` markus reichelt
2008-10-16 15:35   ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-16 18:05     ` John Stoffel
2008-10-16 19:14     ` Harald Arnesen
2008-10-17  1:53     ` Dave Young
2008-10-17  9:05       ` Jike Song
2008-10-17  9:14         ` Dave Young
2008-10-20  3:49     ` Daniel Phillips
2008-10-16 15:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-10-17  1:26 ` Rob Landley
2008-10-17 12:46 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2008-10-17 17:40   ` Greg KH
2008-10-18  1:32   ` david
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-16  2:10 H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-20  6:05 Denys Fedoryshchenko

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