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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: david@lang.hm
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Steven Noonan <steven@uplinklabs.net>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:57:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200810191957.38992.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0810191045500.20238@asgard.lang.hm>

On Sunday, 19 of October 2008, david@lang.hm wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Oct 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> > On Sunday, 19 of October 2008, david@lang.hm wrote:
> >> On Sun, 19 Oct 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sunday, 19 of October 2008, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, david@lang.hm wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Surely some scripts will start to break as soon as the third number gets
> >>>>>> three digits.
> >>>>> we've had three digit numbers in the third position before (2.3 and 2.5
> >>>>> went well past three digits IIRC)
> >>>>
> >>>> Did we? I only recall 2.5.7[something] and 2.3.5[something] (plus special
> >>>> 2.3.99 release).
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Actually, I thought we could continue to use a w.x.y.z numbering
> >>>>>> scheme, but in such a way that:
> >>>>>> w = ($year - 2000) / 10 + 2 (so that we start from 2)
> >>>>>> x = $year % 10
> >>>>>> y = (number of major release in $year)
> >>>>>> z = (number of stable version for major release w.x.y)
> >>>>>> Then, the first major release in 2009 would be 2.9.1 and its first
> >>>>>> -stable "child" would become 2.9.1.1.  In turn, the first major
> >>>>>> release in 2010 could be 3.0.1 and so on.
> >>>>> if you want the part of the version number to increment based on the year,
> >>>>> just make it the year and don't complicate things.
> >>>>
> >>>> In addition to that, having the kernel version dependent on year doesn't
> >>>> really seem to make much sense to me. Simply said, I don't see any
> >>>> relation of kernel source code contents to the current date in whatever
> >>>> calendar system.
> >>>>
> >>>> And 2.x+1.y-rcZ+1 immediately following 2.x.y-rcZ really hurts my eyes :)
> >>>
> >>> Hm, why would that happen?
> >>
> >> with the date based numbers, that was one of the things that 'could'
> >> happen as the year changed (2008.5.0-rc4 would be followed by
> >> 2009.1.0-rc5)
> >
> > Well, in that case I think it would be reasonable to cuntinue the 2008
> > numbering so that 2009.1.0-rc5 in your example would still be 2008.5.0-rc5.
> >
> > That said, I kind of agree that the numbering need not be time-related.  One
> > alternative might be to release 2.9.0 instead of 2.6.29 and then continue in
> > in such a way that each of the three numbers is always a one-digit decimal.
> > Then, we'd have 2.9.0, 2.9.1 ... 2.9.9, 3.0.0, 3.0.1 etc.
> 
> so how would you do the -stable releases?

In the same way as they are done now, ie. 2.9.0.1, 2.9.0.2 etc.  I don't think
there's any problem with having 2.9.1.33 for example. ;-)

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-19 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-16  0:25 [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change Greg KH
2008-10-16  1:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-16  1:51   ` David Sanders
2008-10-16  2:18   ` Greg KH
2008-10-16  7:02 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2008-10-16  7:34   ` david
2008-10-18 21:44     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-19  1:52       ` david
2008-10-19  2:44         ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-16  8:21 ` el es
2008-10-16  9:09   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-16  9:33     ` el es
2008-10-16 10:05       ` el es
2008-10-16 10:14         ` Kristoffer Ericson
2008-10-16 17:30       ` david
2008-10-16  9:15 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-10-16 15:21   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-10-18 21:56   ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-16 12:49 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-16 15:17   ` Greg KH
2008-10-16 15:30     ` Bill Nottingham
2008-10-16 15:47       ` Greg KH
2008-10-16 17:16         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17  4:02           ` Greg KH
2008-10-17  4:26             ` Grant Coady
2008-10-17  4:53             ` Randy Dunlap
2008-10-17  9:31             ` Alan Cox
2008-10-17 16:40               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-17 17:42                 ` Greg KH
2008-10-18  7:18                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-18  7:38                     ` 2.6.28-rc1 --> 2.8.0-rc1; 2.6.27.y --> 2.6.28 [Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change] Dominik Brodowski
2008-10-18  7:47                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2008-10-20  3:48                     ` [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change Alexandre Oliva
2008-10-20  5:29                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-20  7:13                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2008-10-20 18:55                       ` Alex Howells
2008-10-20 20:21                         ` Greg KH
2008-10-21 19:52                           ` Alex Howells
2008-10-22  0:41                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-10-22  4:15                               ` Grant Coady
2008-10-22  8:58                               ` Alex Howells
2008-10-22  9:11                                 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-22 18:11                             ` Stefan Richter
2008-10-21 18:54                         ` Stefan Richter
2008-10-17 17:41               ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 19:45                 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-17 21:42                   ` Greg KH
2008-10-16 16:46     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17  3:47       ` Greg KH
2008-10-17  6:47         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17  7:55           ` Greg KH
2008-10-17  8:16             ` Steven Noonan
2008-10-17 17:46               ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 19:06                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-10-17 21:44                   ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 19:47                 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-17 21:44                   ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 22:14                     ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-10-17 22:49                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-18  1:23                       ` david
2008-10-18 23:14                         ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-19  1:50                           ` david
2008-10-19 12:51                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-19 16:29                             ` david
2008-10-19 17:45                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-19 17:47                                 ` david
2008-10-19 17:57                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2008-10-18  8:45                     ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 23:17                       ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-19  3:35                         ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-20 20:30                       ` Greg KH
2008-10-20 20:54                         ` Felipe Balbi
2008-10-20 21:06                           ` Greg KH
2008-10-20 21:58                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-10-20 22:24                             ` Felipe Balbi
2008-10-21 19:11                               ` Stefan Richter
2008-10-21 19:16                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2008-10-18 22:33                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-19 18:33                       ` Greg KH
2008-10-19 19:51                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-19 23:40                           ` david
2008-10-18 22:38                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-18  1:20               ` david
2008-10-18  8:32               ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-17  8:56             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17 10:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-17 11:18                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-10-17 11:26                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-17 11:32                     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-10-17 15:30               ` Chris Friesen
2008-10-17 17:45               ` Greg KH
2008-10-18  9:01               ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 10:04                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-18 11:08                   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 11:50                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-18 12:28                       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 13:48                         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-18 14:13                           ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-16 14:26 ` markus reichelt
2008-10-16 15:35   ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-16 18:05     ` John Stoffel
2008-10-16 19:14     ` Harald Arnesen
2008-10-17  1:53     ` Dave Young
2008-10-17  9:05       ` Jike Song
2008-10-17  9:14         ` Dave Young
2008-10-20  3:49     ` Daniel Phillips
2008-10-16 15:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-10-17  1:26 ` Rob Landley
2008-10-17 12:46 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2008-10-17 17:40   ` Greg KH
2008-10-18  1:32   ` david
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-16  2:10 H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-20  6:05 Denys Fedoryshchenko

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