From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:02:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081017040239.GB28188@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081016171626.GB22554@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi>
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 08:16:26PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 08:47:26AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> You miss the best alternative:
>
> Simply keep the status quo.
I'd argue that is is a pain. Linus has expressed frustration with the
current numbering scheme, and as someone who deals with kernel version
numbers every single day, I too am mildly frustrated.
I think the main reason why is just that small numbers are easier to
keep track of in your mind. As we are ever increasing the version
number, the release numbers feel like they are getting closer together,
making them less distinguishable.
For example, think of the following:
2.6.5 vs. 2.6.9
Your mind focuses on the 5 and 9, and in thinking about them, it is much
easier to keep them apart.
Now, try the same with:
2.6.24 vs. 2.6.27
You are repeating the tens digit, the "two", so it is a bit harder to
distinguish things. After a few years of this, it gets more difficult
So I proposed an alternative, YEAR.NUMBER. The year is easy to keep
track of, and the release number is a small one, making it too easier to
track and distinguish from each other:
2009.1 vs. 2009.5
or
2010.2 vs. 2011.5
It also means something that lets you remember back to what was going on
for that release better, if you can easily place it within a specific
time frame, which is important for those of us who work with different
kernel versions all the time for different projects and backports and
stable releases.
If the number stays the same, my feeble brain will survive and I'll just
rely on my huge spreadsheet of when specific kernels were released when
to get along, and hopefully I will not make any more .26.5 releases when
I mean .25.5 and such like I have in the past :)
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-17 4:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-16 0:25 [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change Greg KH
2008-10-16 1:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-16 1:51 ` David Sanders
2008-10-16 2:18 ` Greg KH
2008-10-16 7:02 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2008-10-16 7:34 ` david
2008-10-18 21:44 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-19 1:52 ` david
2008-10-19 2:44 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-16 8:21 ` el es
2008-10-16 9:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-16 9:33 ` el es
2008-10-16 10:05 ` el es
2008-10-16 10:14 ` Kristoffer Ericson
2008-10-16 17:30 ` david
2008-10-16 9:15 ` Hans J. Koch
2008-10-16 15:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-10-18 21:56 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-16 12:49 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-16 15:17 ` Greg KH
2008-10-16 15:30 ` Bill Nottingham
2008-10-16 15:47 ` Greg KH
2008-10-16 17:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17 4:02 ` Greg KH [this message]
2008-10-17 4:26 ` Grant Coady
2008-10-17 4:53 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-10-17 9:31 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-17 16:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-17 17:42 ` Greg KH
2008-10-18 7:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-18 7:38 ` 2.6.28-rc1 --> 2.8.0-rc1; 2.6.27.y --> 2.6.28 [Re: [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change] Dominik Brodowski
2008-10-18 7:47 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2008-10-20 3:48 ` [RFC] Kernel version numbering scheme change Alexandre Oliva
2008-10-20 5:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-20 7:13 ` Alexandre Oliva
2008-10-20 18:55 ` Alex Howells
2008-10-20 20:21 ` Greg KH
2008-10-21 19:52 ` Alex Howells
2008-10-22 0:41 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-10-22 4:15 ` Grant Coady
2008-10-22 8:58 ` Alex Howells
2008-10-22 9:11 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-22 18:11 ` Stefan Richter
2008-10-21 18:54 ` Stefan Richter
2008-10-17 17:41 ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 19:45 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-17 21:42 ` Greg KH
2008-10-16 16:46 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17 3:47 ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 6:47 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17 7:55 ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 8:16 ` Steven Noonan
2008-10-17 17:46 ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 19:06 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-10-17 21:44 ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 19:47 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-17 21:44 ` Greg KH
2008-10-17 22:14 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-10-17 22:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-18 1:23 ` david
2008-10-18 23:14 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-19 1:50 ` david
2008-10-19 12:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-19 16:29 ` david
2008-10-19 17:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-19 17:47 ` david
2008-10-19 17:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-18 8:45 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 23:17 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-10-19 3:35 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-20 20:30 ` Greg KH
2008-10-20 20:54 ` Felipe Balbi
2008-10-20 21:06 ` Greg KH
2008-10-20 21:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-10-20 22:24 ` Felipe Balbi
2008-10-21 19:11 ` Stefan Richter
2008-10-21 19:16 ` Felipe Balbi
2008-10-18 22:33 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-19 18:33 ` Greg KH
2008-10-19 19:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-19 23:40 ` david
2008-10-18 22:38 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-10-18 1:20 ` david
2008-10-18 8:32 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-17 8:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-17 10:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-17 11:18 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-10-17 11:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-17 11:32 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-10-17 15:30 ` Chris Friesen
2008-10-17 17:45 ` Greg KH
2008-10-18 9:01 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 10:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-18 11:08 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 11:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-18 12:28 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-18 13:48 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-10-18 14:13 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-10-16 14:26 ` markus reichelt
2008-10-16 15:35 ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-16 18:05 ` John Stoffel
2008-10-16 19:14 ` Harald Arnesen
2008-10-17 1:53 ` Dave Young
2008-10-17 9:05 ` Jike Song
2008-10-17 9:14 ` Dave Young
2008-10-20 3:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-10-16 15:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-10-17 1:26 ` Rob Landley
2008-10-17 12:46 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2008-10-17 17:40 ` Greg KH
2008-10-18 1:32 ` david
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-16 2:10 H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-20 6:05 Denys Fedoryshchenko
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