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* Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
@ 2008-11-06 15:46 Bjoern Olausson
  2008-11-06 17:20 ` The Source
  2008-11-06 23:36 ` Toby
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Bjoern Olausson @ 2008-11-06 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takashi Iwai, alsa-devel

Creative released a driver today....
I am hasitating to install it.. the last one was so crappy and I just
installed my gentoo new ;-)

But it looks really like the SOURCE, so maybe it will help to pimp the
ALSA driver (would rather see an implementation in alsa then an driver
from Creative)

http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&thread.id=132288

http://support.creative.com/downloads/download.aspx?nDownloadId=10792

Kind regards
Bjoern

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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-06 15:46 Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released Bjoern Olausson
@ 2008-11-06 17:20 ` The Source
  2008-11-06 17:26   ` Takashi Iwai
  2008-11-06 17:42   ` Brendan Pike
  2008-11-06 23:36 ` Toby
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: The Source @ 2008-11-06 17:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: alsa-devel

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Bjoern Olausson пишет:
> Creative released a driver today....
> I am hasitating to install it.. the last one was so crappy and I just
> installed my gentoo new ;-)
>
> But it looks really like the SOURCE, so maybe it will help to pimp the
> ALSA driver (would rather see an implementation in alsa then an driver
> from Creative)
>
> http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&thread.id=132288
>
> http://support.creative.com/downloads/download.aspx?nDownloadId=10792
>
> Kind regards
> Bjoern
> _______________________________________________
> Alsa-devel mailing list
> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>
>   
Tried that driver. It oopses for my system (2.6.26.6-79.fc9.x86_64). I 
attached dmesg output with oops trace log. Since that driver is open 
source, this log might be interesting for you. Pergaps you can get the 
driver to working state?

[-- Attachment #2: dmesg.out.bz2 --]
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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-06 17:20 ` The Source
@ 2008-11-06 17:26   ` Takashi Iwai
  2008-11-06 17:56     ` Brendan Pike
                       ` (2 more replies)
  2008-11-06 17:42   ` Brendan Pike
  1 sibling, 3 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2008-11-06 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Source; +Cc: alsa-devel, Bjoern Olausson

At Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:20:09 +0300,
The Source wrote:
> 
> Bjoern Olausson пишет:
> > Creative released a driver today....
> > I am hasitating to install it.. the last one was so crappy and I just
> > installed my gentoo new ;-)
> >
> > But it looks really like the SOURCE, so maybe it will help to pimp the
> > ALSA driver (would rather see an implementation in alsa then an driver
> > from Creative)
> >
> > http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&thread.id=132288
> >
> > http://support.creative.com/downloads/download.aspx?nDownloadId=10792
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Bjoern
> > _______________________________________________
> > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >
> >   
> Tried that driver. It oopses for my system (2.6.26.6-79.fc9.x86_64). I 
> attached dmesg output with oops trace log. Since that driver is open 
> source, this log might be interesting for you. Pergaps you can get the 
> driver to working state?

Perhaps, but I don't want to give such a funny game like debugging
away from you ;)

Yeah, I'm going to check their driver later, maybe tomorrow or weekend
(I've been pretty busy in these weeks for other stuff).

Anyway it's a great news if they really opened the source codes.
Hopefully my work wasn't a waste... at least to motivate them toward
the right direction.


thanks,

Takashi
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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-06 17:20 ` The Source
  2008-11-06 17:26   ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2008-11-06 17:42   ` Brendan Pike
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Brendan Pike @ 2008-11-06 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Source; +Cc: Takashi Iwai, alsa-devel

Confirmed working with Auzentech Prelude X-Fi. Hardware mixing with
multiple streams works as well. SPDIF-out also working.

Kernel 2.6.27 on x86.

On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:20:09 +0300
The Source <thesourcehim@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bjoern Olausson пишет:
> > Creative released a driver today....
> > I am hasitating to install it.. the last one was so crappy and I just
> > installed my gentoo new ;-)
> >
> > But it looks really like the SOURCE, so maybe it will help to pimp the
> > ALSA driver (would rather see an implementation in alsa then an driver
> > from Creative)
> >
> > http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&thread.id=132288
> >
> > http://support.creative.com/downloads/download.aspx?nDownloadId=10792
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Bjoern
> > _______________________________________________
> > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >
> >   
> Tried that driver. It oopses for my system (2.6.26.6-79.fc9.x86_64). I 
> attached dmesg output with oops trace log. Since that driver is open 
> source, this log might be interesting for you. Pergaps you can get the 
> driver to working state?
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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-06 17:26   ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2008-11-06 17:56     ` Brendan Pike
  2008-11-06 19:34     ` Bjoern Olausson
  2008-11-10  7:45     ` Takashi Iwai
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Brendan Pike @ 2008-11-06 17:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: Bjoern, alsa-devel, The Source, Olausson

Takashi, your efforts have not gone unnoticed.
Very appreciated of what you accomplished in such a small timeframe.

I finally stuffed the X-Fi in my workstation today as I had to install
a HiFn crypto accelerator card anyways.

The Creative provided source compiles into a single kernel module,
unlike the huge binary mess Creative released back in April.



On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:26:10 +0100 Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:

> At Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:20:09 +0300,
> The Source wrote:
> > 
> > Bjoern Olausson пишет:
> > > Creative released a driver today....
> > > I am hasitating to install it.. the last one was so crappy and I just
> > > installed my gentoo new ;-)
> > >
> > > But it looks really like the SOURCE, so maybe it will help to pimp the
> > > ALSA driver (would rather see an implementation in alsa then an driver
> > > from Creative)
> > >
> > > http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&thread.id=132288
> > >
> > > http://support.creative.com/downloads/download.aspx?nDownloadId=10792
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > > Bjoern
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> > >
> > >   
> > Tried that driver. It oopses for my system (2.6.26.6-79.fc9.x86_64). I 
> > attached dmesg output with oops trace log. Since that driver is open 
> > source, this log might be interesting for you. Pergaps you can get the 
> > driver to working state?
> 
> Perhaps, but I don't want to give such a funny game like debugging
> away from you ;)
> 
> Yeah, I'm going to check their driver later, maybe tomorrow or weekend
> (I've been pretty busy in these weeks for other stuff).
> 
> Anyway it's a great news if they really opened the source codes.
> Hopefully my work wasn't a waste... at least to motivate them toward
> the right direction.
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Takashi
> _______________________________________________
> Alsa-devel mailing list
> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-06 17:26   ` Takashi Iwai
  2008-11-06 17:56     ` Brendan Pike
@ 2008-11-06 19:34     ` Bjoern Olausson
  2008-11-10  7:45     ` Takashi Iwai
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Bjoern Olausson @ 2008-11-06 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: alsa-devel, The Source

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 18:26, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:

>
> Anyway it's a great news if they really opened the source codes.
> Hopefully my work wasn't a waste... at least to motivate them toward
> the right direction.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Takashi
>

I guess your work finally made creative to take that step. They can't
leave the fact uncommented, that someone (you) wrote a working drivers
without even having the hardware.... This makes the whole X-Fi
disaster more embarrassing for Creative....

Thanks for you work Takashi

kind regards
blubbi

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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-06 15:46 Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released Bjoern Olausson
  2008-11-06 17:20 ` The Source
@ 2008-11-06 23:36 ` Toby
  2008-11-07  4:42   ` The Source
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread
From: Toby @ 2008-11-06 23:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

2008/11/7 Bjoern Olausson <lkmlist@gmail.com>:
> Creative released a driver today....
> I am hasitating to install it.. the last one was so crappy and I just
> installed my gentoo new ;-)
>
> But it looks really like the SOURCE, so maybe it will help to pimp the
> ALSA driver (would rather see an implementation in alsa then an driver
> from Creative)

Is the new driver providing an ALSA device, or an OSS-style /dev/dsp one?

Personally I'd rather see an open-source driver make it into ALSA to
support the X-Fi, rather than relying upon Creative's terrible quality
and dreadful timeliness.

I'll try out the Creative driver on the weekend, and see if it works
where the ALSA one doesn't. (I just get loops of static from the
experimental ALSA driver.. it's like a memory ring buffer somewhere is
*meant* to be getting filled with an audio stream, but isn't - but the
card is still playing from it.)

Cheers.
Toby

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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-06 23:36 ` Toby
@ 2008-11-07  4:42   ` The Source
  2008-11-07  5:02     ` The Source
  2008-11-07 19:08     ` Bjoern Olausson
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: The Source @ 2008-11-07  4:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: alsa-devel

Toby пишет:
> 2008/11/7 Bjoern Olausson <lkmlist@gmail.com>:
>   
>> Creative released a driver today....
>> I am hasitating to install it.. the last one was so crappy and I just
>> installed my gentoo new ;-)
>>
>> But it looks really like the SOURCE, so maybe it will help to pimp the
>> ALSA driver (would rather see an implementation in alsa then an driver
>> from Creative)
>>     
>
> Is the new driver providing an ALSA device, or an OSS-style /dev/dsp one?
>
> Personally I'd rather see an open-source driver make it into ALSA to
> support the X-Fi, rather than relying upon Creative's terrible quality
> and dreadful timeliness.
>
> I'll try out the Creative driver on the weekend, and see if it works
> where the ALSA one doesn't. (I just get loops of static from the
> experimental ALSA driver.. it's like a memory ring buffer somewhere is
> *meant* to be getting filled with an audio stream, but isn't - but the
> card is still playing from it.)
>
> Cheers.
> Toby
>
>   
It was incompatibility with older kernels. Updated to 2.6.27 and driver 
works now. But no 5.1 support again :(
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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-07  4:42   ` The Source
@ 2008-11-07  5:02     ` The Source
  2008-11-07 19:08     ` Bjoern Olausson
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: The Source @ 2008-11-07  5:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: alsa-devel

The Source пишет:
> Toby пишет:
>> 2008/11/7 Bjoern Olausson <lkmlist@gmail.com>:
>>  
>>> Creative released a driver today....
>>> I am hasitating to install it.. the last one was so crappy and I just
>>> installed my gentoo new ;-)
>>>
>>> But it looks really like the SOURCE, so maybe it will help to pimp the
>>> ALSA driver (would rather see an implementation in alsa then an driver
>>> from Creative)
>>>     
>>
>> Is the new driver providing an ALSA device, or an OSS-style /dev/dsp 
>> one?
>>
>> Personally I'd rather see an open-source driver make it into ALSA to
>> support the X-Fi, rather than relying upon Creative's terrible quality
>> and dreadful timeliness.
>>
>> I'll try out the Creative driver on the weekend, and see if it works
>> where the ALSA one doesn't. (I just get loops of static from the
>> experimental ALSA driver.. it's like a memory ring buffer somewhere is
>> *meant* to be getting filled with an audio stream, but isn't - but the
>> card is still playing from it.)
>>
>> Cheers.
>> Toby
>>
>>   
> It was incompatibility with older kernels. Updated to 2.6.27 and 
> driver works now. But no 5.1 support again :(
>
OSS mixer has no functionality. It is present (/dev/mixer) but no app 
can use it for volume control. OSS playback is fine however.
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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-07  4:42   ` The Source
  2008-11-07  5:02     ` The Source
@ 2008-11-07 19:08     ` Bjoern Olausson
  2008-11-07 23:28       ` Sebastian Schneider
  2008-11-08  5:32       ` The Source
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Bjoern Olausson @ 2008-11-07 19:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Source; +Cc: Takashi Iwai, alsa-devel

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 05:42, The Source <thesourcehim@gmail.com> wrote:

> It was incompatibility with older kernels. Updated to 2.6.27 and driver
> works now. But no 5.1 support again :(
>

speaker-test -c 6 at least plays sound on Front-Left, Center and Front-Right.

No sound on the rear speakers or on the Subwoofer....

But hey, it's half the way...

kind regards
Bjoern

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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-07 19:08     ` Bjoern Olausson
@ 2008-11-07 23:28       ` Sebastian Schneider
  2008-11-08  5:32       ` The Source
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Schneider @ 2008-11-07 23:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

At least it is working with you. Amarok, mplayer, xine and all other players tell me that there is no sounddevice found. The driver is compiled on 2.6.27 installation went successful, the driver was also loaded without problems.

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:08:50 +0100
> Von: "Bjoern Olausson" <lkmlist@gmail.com>
> An: "The Source" <thesourcehim@gmail.com>
> CC: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> Betreff: Re: [alsa-devel] Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium	Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released

> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 05:42, The Source <thesourcehim@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > It was incompatibility with older kernels. Updated to 2.6.27 and driver
> > works now. But no 5.1 support again :(
> >
> 
> speaker-test -c 6 at least plays sound on Front-Left, Center and
> Front-Right.
> 
> No sound on the rear speakers or on the Subwoofer....
> 
> But hey, it's half the way...
> 
> kind regards
> Bjoern
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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-07 19:08     ` Bjoern Olausson
  2008-11-07 23:28       ` Sebastian Schneider
@ 2008-11-08  5:32       ` The Source
  2008-11-09 23:32         ` Bjoern Olausson
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread
From: The Source @ 2008-11-08  5:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bjoern Olausson; +Cc: alsa-devel

Bjoern Olausson пишет:
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 05:42, The Source <thesourcehim@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> It was incompatibility with older kernels. Updated to 2.6.27 and driver
>> works now. But no 5.1 support again :(
>>
>>     
>
> speaker-test -c 6 at least plays sound on Front-Left, Center and Front-Right.
>
> No sound on the rear speakers or on the Subwoofer....
>
> But hey, it's half the way...
>
> kind regards
> Bjoern
>
>   
Center doesn't play for me. Only Front left and right.
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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-08  5:32       ` The Source
@ 2008-11-09 23:32         ` Bjoern Olausson
  2008-11-13 20:09           ` Sebastian Schneider
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread
From: Bjoern Olausson @ 2008-11-09 23:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Source; +Cc: alsa-devel

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 06:32, The Source <thesourcehim@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bjoern Olausson пишет:
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 05:42, The Source <thesourcehim@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> It was incompatibility with older kernels. Updated to 2.6.27 and driver
>>> works now. But no 5.1 support again :(
>>>
>>>
>>
>> speaker-test -c 6 at least plays sound on Front-Left, Center and
>> Front-Right.
>>
>> No sound on the rear speakers or on the Subwoofer....
>>
>> But hey, it's half the way...
>>
>> kind regards
>> Bjoern
>>
>>
>
> Center doesn't play for me. Only Front left and right.
>

mmh and the stroy continues... Creative would have been better off it
they would not have annonced Linux driver... hrrhrr

I guess the best sollution would be to take the required parts fromt
the creative driver and start writing or completing the current alsa
driver...
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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-06 17:26   ` Takashi Iwai
  2008-11-06 17:56     ` Brendan Pike
  2008-11-06 19:34     ` Bjoern Olausson
@ 2008-11-10  7:45     ` Takashi Iwai
  2008-11-10  7:47       ` The Source
  2008-11-11  5:14       ` Bjoern Olausson
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2008-11-10  7:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Source; +Cc: alsa-devel, Bjoern Olausson

At Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:26:10 +0100,
I wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I'm going to check their driver later, maybe tomorrow or weekend

Did take a quick glance through their code now.
A good news is that it's much better than I was concerned.
There are a few things to be fixed / discussed, but basically it
shouldn't be that difficult.

Can anyone have a contact with them?  If they are interested in the
upstream merging, please give my name and address as the contact
person.


thanks,

Takashi

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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-10  7:45     ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2008-11-10  7:47       ` The Source
  2008-11-11  5:14       ` Bjoern Olausson
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: The Source @ 2008-11-10  7:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: alsa-devel

Takashi Iwai пишет:
> At Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:26:10 +0100,
> I wrote:
>   
>> Yeah, I'm going to check their driver later, maybe tomorrow or weekend
>>     
>
> Did take a quick glance through their code now.
> A good news is that it's much better than I was concerned.
> There are a few things to be fixed / discussed, but basically it
> shouldn't be that difficult.
>
> Can anyone have a contact with them?  If they are interested in the
> upstream merging, please give my name and address as the contact
> person.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Takashi
>
>   
You can contact them via driver forum thread moderator for now. He can 
deliver your request and give you contact information if they allow that.
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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-10  7:45     ` Takashi Iwai
  2008-11-10  7:47       ` The Source
@ 2008-11-11  5:14       ` Bjoern Olausson
  2008-11-11  7:55         ` Bjoern Olausson
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread
From: Bjoern Olausson @ 2008-11-11  5:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: alsa-devel

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 08:45, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> At Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:26:10 +0100,
> I wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I'm going to check their driver later, maybe tomorrow or weekend
>
> Did take a quick glance through their code now.
> A good news is that it's much better than I was concerned.
> There are a few things to be fixed / discussed, but basically it
> shouldn't be that difficult.
>
> Can anyone have a contact with them?  If they are interested in the
> upstream merging, please give my name and address as the contact
> person.
>

I posted in the driver feedback forum and asked them to get in contact
with you or me, so lets see what happens.

http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&view=by_date_ascending&message.id=132606#M132606

Kind regards
Bjoern

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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-11  5:14       ` Bjoern Olausson
@ 2008-11-11  7:55         ` Bjoern Olausson
  2008-11-11  8:10           ` Takashi Iwai
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread
From: Bjoern Olausson @ 2008-11-11  7:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: alsa-devel

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 06:14, Bjoern Olausson <lkmlist@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Did take a quick glance through their code now.
>> A good news is that it's much better than I was concerned.
>> There are a few things to be fixed / discussed, but basically it
>> shouldn't be that difficult.
>>
>> Can anyone have a contact with them?  If they are interested in the
>> upstream merging, please give my name and address as the contact
>> person.
>>
>
> I posted in the driver feedback forum and asked them to get in contact
> with you or me, so lets see what happens.
>
> http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&view=by_date_ascending&message.id=132606#M132606
>

Seems there is no way to get in contact with the Devs directly, no
bugtracker, nothing... just that forum... (but I guess no dev is
?allowed/willing? to write in this forum) I don't really understand
the way creative communicates with it's customers... so lets see if
someone will contact you... my guess is no...

Anyway, for my next PC I'll look around for another soundcard vendor.

http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&view=by_date_ascending&message.id=132610#M132610

kind regards
Bjoern

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread

* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-11  7:55         ` Bjoern Olausson
@ 2008-11-11  8:10           ` Takashi Iwai
  2008-11-11 18:33             ` James Courtier-Dutton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2008-11-11  8:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bjoern Olausson; +Cc: alsa-devel

At Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:55:04 +0100,
Bjoern Olausson wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 06:14, Bjoern Olausson <lkmlist@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Did take a quick glance through their code now.
> >> A good news is that it's much better than I was concerned.
> >> There are a few things to be fixed / discussed, but basically it
> >> shouldn't be that difficult.
> >>
> >> Can anyone have a contact with them?  If they are interested in the
> >> upstream merging, please give my name and address as the contact
> >> person.
> >>
> >
> > I posted in the driver feedback forum and asked them to get in contact
> > with you or me, so lets see what happens.
> >
> > http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&view=by_date_ascending&message.id=132606#M132606
> >
> 
> Seems there is no way to get in contact with the Devs directly, no
> bugtracker, nothing... just that forum... (but I guess no dev is
> ?allowed/willing? to write in this forum) I don't really understand
> the way creative communicates with it's customers... so lets see if
> someone will contact you... my guess is no...

Well, let's hope it.


thanks,

Takashi

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread

* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-11  8:10           ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2008-11-11 18:33             ` James Courtier-Dutton
  2008-11-11 19:36               ` Bjoern Olausson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread
From: James Courtier-Dutton @ 2008-11-11 18:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Takashi Iwai; +Cc: alsa-devel, Bjoern Olausson

Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:55:04 +0100,
> Bjoern Olausson wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 06:14, Bjoern Olausson <lkmlist@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Did take a quick glance through their code now.
>>>> A good news is that it's much better than I was concerned.
>>>> There are a few things to be fixed / discussed, but basically it
>>>> shouldn't be that difficult.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone have a contact with them?  If they are interested in the
>>>> upstream merging, please give my name and address as the contact
>>>> person.
>>>>
>>> I posted in the driver feedback forum and asked them to get in contact
>>> with you or me, so lets see what happens.
>>>
>>> http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&view=by_date_ascending&message.id=132606#M132606
>>>
>> Seems there is no way to get in contact with the Devs directly, no
>> bugtracker, nothing... just that forum... (but I guess no dev is
>> ?allowed/willing? to write in this forum) I don't really understand
>> the way creative communicates with it's customers... so lets see if
>> someone will contact you... my guess is no...
> 
> Well, let's hope it.
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Takashi

All the good contacts I had at Creative have left the company.
>From what I understand of how the company works internally, is that the
only reason they have this open source driver is because some large
customer of theirs required it. They have no interest in what happens to
the driver over and above supporting the one customer that requested it.
I therefore doubt that they will make any contact with us regarding
getting the driver into the kernel. If that was the case, they would
have approached us earlier.

Kind Regards

James

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread

* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-11 18:33             ` James Courtier-Dutton
@ 2008-11-11 19:36               ` Bjoern Olausson
  2008-11-11 21:47                 ` Vedran Miletić
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread
From: Bjoern Olausson @ 2008-11-11 19:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: James Courtier-Dutton; +Cc: Takashi Iwai, alsa-devel

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 19:33, James Courtier-Dutton
<James@superbug.co.uk> wrote:
>
> All the good contacts I had at Creative have left the company.
> From what I understand of how the company works internally, is that the
> only reason they have this open source driver is because some large
> customer of theirs required it. They have no interest in what happens to
> the driver over and above supporting the one customer that requested it.
> I therefore doubt that they will make any contact with us regarding
> getting the driver into the kernel. If that was the case, they would
> have approached us earlier.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> James
>

If you are right, that would be a straight hit in the face of every
Linux X-Fi user and the OpenSource community.
So sad... but thanks for the info.

Lets hope the best.

Bjoern

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread

* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-11 19:36               ` Bjoern Olausson
@ 2008-11-11 21:47                 ` Vedran Miletić
  2008-11-12 10:05                   ` Pavel Hofman
  2008-11-12 17:46                   ` Bjoern Olausson
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Vedran Miletić @ 2008-11-11 21:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bjoern Olausson; +Cc: Takashi Iwai, alsa-devel

2008/11/11 Bjoern Olausson <lkmlist@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 19:33, James Courtier-Dutton
> <James@superbug.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> All the good contacts I had at Creative have left the company.
>> From what I understand of how the company works internally, is that the
>> only reason they have this open source driver is because some large
>> customer of theirs required it. They have no interest in what happens to
>> the driver over and above supporting the one customer that requested it.
>> I therefore doubt that they will make any contact with us regarding
>> getting the driver into the kernel. If that was the case, they would
>> have approached us earlier.
>>
>> Kind Regards
>>
>> James
>>
>
> If you are right, that would be a straight hit in the face of every
> Linux X-Fi user and the OpenSource community.
> So sad... but thanks for the info.
>
> Lets hope the best.
>
> Bjoern
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> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>

Then show your appreciation to Creative by never ever buying any of
their products again. That's what I'm going to do.

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^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread

* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-11 21:47                 ` Vedran Miletić
@ 2008-11-12 10:05                   ` Pavel Hofman
  2008-11-12 17:46                   ` Bjoern Olausson
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Hofman @ 2008-11-12 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

Vedran Miletić wrote:
> 2008/11/11 Bjoern Olausson <lkmlist@gmail.com>:
>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 19:33, James Courtier-Dutton
>> <James@superbug.co.uk> wrote:
>>> All the good contacts I had at Creative have left the company.
>>> From what I understand of how the company works internally, is that the
>>> only reason they have this open source driver is because some large
>>> customer of theirs required it. They have no interest in what happens to
>>> the driver over and above supporting the one customer that requested it.
>>> I therefore doubt that they will make any contact with us regarding
>>> getting the driver into the kernel. If that was the case, they would
>>> have approached us earlier.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>> If you are right, that would be a straight hit in the face of every
>> Linux X-Fi user and the OpenSource community.
>> So sad... but thanks for the info.
>>
>> Lets hope the best.
>>
>> Bjoern
>> _______________________________________________
>> Alsa-devel mailing list
>> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
>> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
>>
> 
> Then show your appreciation to Creative by never ever buying any of
> their products again. That's what I'm going to do.
> 

Honestly, at least they did something. There are sound card 
manufacturers that never released a single line of code, nor did they 
offer NDAs to ALSA developers.

If it is for a large customer, I cannot imagine he would be satisfied 
with the current state of the released driver. But I may be wrong, as 
often :)


Pavel.
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* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-11 21:47                 ` Vedran Miletić
  2008-11-12 10:05                   ` Pavel Hofman
@ 2008-11-12 17:46                   ` Bjoern Olausson
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Bjoern Olausson @ 2008-11-12 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vedran Miletić; +Cc: Takashi Iwai, alsa-devel

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 22:47, Vedran Miletić <rivanvx@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If you are right, that would be a straight hit in the face of every
>> Linux X-Fi user and the OpenSource community.
>> So sad... but thanks for the info.
>>
>> Lets hope the best.
>>
>> Bjoern
>>
>
> Then show your appreciation to Creative by never ever buying any of
> their products again. That's what I'm going to do.
>
> --
> Vedran Miletić
>

Thats exactly what I will do. Befor this desaster I recommended
Creative to everyone... but nope, no longer...

kind regards
Bjoern
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^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 24+ messages in thread

* Re: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi and X-Fi Titanium Series Linux 32bit/64bit Driver Source released
  2008-11-09 23:32         ` Bjoern Olausson
@ 2008-11-13 20:09           ` Sebastian Schneider
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Schneider @ 2008-11-13 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

Did someone start to do some work on the driver and do some bugfixing? Or does Creative forbid to work on the driver and bring up some patches/fixes and new Features. And what about the Control Panel? Can someone manage it to bring support for the driver?

I would do it by myself, but I'm in game developing and have no clue how to work on a driver.

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