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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	daniel@hozac.com, Nadia Derbey <Nadia.Derbey@bull.net>,
	serue@us.ibm.com, clg@fr.ibm.com,
	Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	sukadev@us.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Signals to cinit
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:52:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081112145226.GA13269@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081110232735.GA20891@us.ibm.com>

On 11/10, sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov [oleg@redhat.com] wrote:
> | (lkml cced because containers list's archive is not useable)
>
> Hmm. what do you mean by not usable ? I see your email here:
> https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/containers/2008-November/014152.html

Yes, but I failed to find our previous discussions via google, and actually
I prefer to see them all on marc.info, so I can quickly find them...

> | > Or something. yes, sys_rt_sigqueueinfo() is problematic...
>
> Yes, if user-space sets si_pid to 0.
>
> Can we change sys_rt_sigqueueinfo() to:
>
> 	if (!info->si_pid)
> 		info->si_pid = getpid();

I doubt very much we can do this. This can break the existing applications
which can overload ->si_pid. I think it is better to pass ->si_pid as is.
If user-space sends siginfo_t so sub-namespace, it must know what it does.
I don't think the kernel can help, it just can't know what ->si_pid actually
means. Unless this is documented somewhere, but I don't know.

> | But how can send_signal() know that the signal comes from the upper ns?
> | This is not trivial, we can't blindly use current to check. The signal
> | can be sent from irq/workqueue/etc.
>
> You mean the in_interrupt() check we had in earlier patchset would
> not be enough ?

I don't think we can rely on in_interrupt() check. Thnk about some device
drivers which can send the notification from workqueue, or from kernel
thread... Say, can you see when drivers/usb/core/devio.c does
async_completed() ? And note that SI_ASYNCIO is SI_FROMUSER.

Even _if_ it is safe to use in_interrupt() right now, I don't think we
can rely on this fact.

> | Perhaps we can start with something like the patch below. Not that I like
> | it very much though. We should really place this code under
> | CONFIG_I_DO_CARE_ABOUT_NAMESPACES ;)
>
> CONFIG_PID_NS ?

Ah yes, we have it ;)

Oleg.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-12 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-01 18:05 Signals to cinit sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
     [not found] ` <20081101180505.GA24268-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-10 17:38   ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]     ` <20081110173839.GA11121-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-10 18:00       ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-11-10 19:32     ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-11-10 23:27       ` sukadev
2008-11-12 14:52         ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2008-11-12 16:12           ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-11-12 16:49           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-11-12 18:12             ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-12 19:06               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-11-11  2:24       ` sukadev
2008-11-12 15:05         ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-11-12 19:04           ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-14 17:26             ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-11-12 16:53       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-11-13 19:10       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu

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