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From: Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	daniel@hozac.com, Nadia Derbey <Nadia.Derbey@bull.net>,
	serue@us.ibm.com, clg@fr.ibm.com,
	Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	sukadev@us.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Signals to cinit
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:04:21 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081112190421.GE3230@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081112150555.GB13269@redhat.com>

Oleg Nesterov [oleg@redhat.com] wrote:
| On 11/10, sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:
| >
| > Also, what happens if a fatal signal is first received from a descendant
| > and while that is still pending, the same signal is received from ancestor
| > ns ?  Won't the second one be ignored by legacy_queue() for the non-rt case ?

On second thoughts, cinit is a normal process in its ancestor ns so it
might very well ignore the second instance of the signal (as long as it
does not ignore SIGKILL/SIGSTOP)

| 
| Please see my another email:
| 
| 	We must also change sig_ignored() to drop SIGKILL/SIGSTOP early when
| 	it comes from the same ns. Otherwise, it can mask the next SIGKILL
| 	from the parent ns.

Ok.

| 
| 	But this perhaps makes sense anyway, even without containers.
| 	Currently, when the global init has the pending SIGKILL, we can't
| 	trust __wait_event_killable/etc, and this is actually wrong.
| 
| We can drop other SIG_DFL signals from the same namespace early as well.

I think Eric's patchset did this and iirc, we ran into the problem of
blocked SIG_DFL signals ?

| I seem to already did something like sig_init_ignored(), but I forgot.

Yes, I think we had that in the patchset but that was not merged.

| 
| Or, we can just ignore this (imho) minor problem.

I think so too.

| The ancestor ns
| must know it can't reliably kill cinit with (say) SIGTERM. It can
| be ignored, or it can have have a handler, and it can be lost because
| SIGTERM is already pending. Only SIGKILL is special.
| 
| Actually. I personally think that if we manage to achieve that
| 
| 	- the sub-namespace can't kill its init
| 
| 	- the ancestor can always kill cinit with SIGKILL

Yep.

| 
| then imho we should not worry very much about other issues ;)
| 
| Oleg.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-12 19:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-01 18:05 Signals to cinit sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8
     [not found] ` <20081101180505.GA24268-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-10 17:38   ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]     ` <20081110173839.GA11121-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-10 18:00       ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-11-10 19:32     ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-11-10 23:27       ` sukadev
2008-11-12 14:52         ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-11-12 16:12           ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-11-12 16:49           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-11-12 18:12             ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-11-12 19:06               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-11-11  2:24       ` sukadev
2008-11-12 15:05         ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-11-12 19:04           ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu [this message]
2008-11-14 17:26             ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-11-12 16:53       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-11-13 19:10       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu

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