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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>,
	heukelum@fastmail.fm, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Alexander van Heukelum <heukelum@mailshack.com>,
	Glauber Costa <gcosta@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC,v2] x86_64: save_args out of line
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:06:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081119000605.GQ6703@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081118234511.80C4F1544F1@magilla.localdomain>

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 03:45:11PM -0800, Roland McGrath wrote:
> Yes, I mean a single macro that produces both the instruction and the CFI
> pseudo-op to go with it.  This is the essential characteristic that makes
> it an improvement for maintaining the code.  The main problem we have now
> is that it's easy to write/modify plain assembly instructions and forget to
> add or update the CFI to match.  A well-considered set of macros can solve
> this without making it any harder for the average assembly programmer to
> understand what each line of the source means intuitively.

Hmm, but if the assembler cannot auto generate it how should the assembler
writer know if he should use the macro or the direct instruction without
understanding CFI?

Also what will the assembler reader do? Do they first have to understand
CFI to understand everything? I personally would probably just
resort to objdump -S in this situation.

I think you're saying that for the user the macros would be just
equivalent, but if that's true they could be just auto generated 
by the assembler. But it's obviously not, so you'll end up
with the Linux magic asm dialect (and its maintenance disadvantages)
and you'll still require CFI knowledge to understand/write everything 
anyways.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-18 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-16 14:29 [PATCH] trivial, entry_64: remove whitespace at end of lines Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-16 14:29 ` [RFC] x86: save_args out of line Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-17 12:14   ` Glauber Costa
2008-11-17 15:13     ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-17 12:53   ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-17 15:37     ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-17 18:23       ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-17 19:22         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-17 19:29           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-17 19:49             ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-17 19:54               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-17 19:43           ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-17 19:49             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-17 17:52   ` [RFC,v2] x86_64: " Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-18  8:09     ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-18 11:16       ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-18 12:51         ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-18 14:03           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 14:52             ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-18 15:00               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 22:53                 ` Roland McGrath
2008-11-18 23:35                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-18 23:36                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-18 23:44                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-19  0:08                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-18 23:45                     ` Roland McGrath
2008-11-19  0:06                       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-11-19  0:01                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-19 10:34                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-19 20:09                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-19  0:18     ` [PATCH/RFC] Move entry_64.S register saving out of the macros Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-19 17:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-19 20:16         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-20 13:40       ` [PATCH] x86: clean up after: move " Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-20 14:01         ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-20 15:04         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-20 15:26           ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-20 15:39             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-20 15:50               ` [PATCH] x86: clean up after: move entry_64.S register savingout " Jan Beulich
2008-11-20 15:57               ` [PATCH] x86: clean up after: move entry_64.S register saving out " Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-20 16:07                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-20 16:29                 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-20 17:24                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-21 15:41               ` [PATCH] x86: Introduce save_rest and restructure the PTREGSCALL macro in entry_64.S Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-21 15:43                 ` [PATCH] x86: entry_64.S: Factor out save_paranoid and paranoid_exit Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-21 15:44                   ` [PATCH] Split out some macro's and move common code to paranoid_exit Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-21 16:06                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-23  9:08                       ` [PATCH] x86: include ENTRY/END in entry handlers in entry_64.S Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-23  9:15                         ` [PATCH] x86: KPROBE_ENTRY should be paired wth KPROBE_END Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-23 13:27                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-23 13:51                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 14:12                               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 14:55                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-23 15:04                                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 15:04                                 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-23 15:12                                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 15:31                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-23 15:41                                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 15:37                                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 16:29                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-24  9:17                           ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-24 10:26                             ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-24 10:35                               ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-24 12:24                                 ` [PATCH] x86_64: get rid of the use of KPROBE_ENTRY / KPROBE_END Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-24 13:33                                   ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-24 14:38                                     ` [PATCH] i386: " Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-23  9:21                         ` [PATCH] x86: include ENTRY/END in entry handlers in entry_64.S Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 11:23                           ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-23 11:35                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 20:13                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-24 10:06                               ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-24 18:07                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-23 13:23                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-17  9:47 ` [PATCH] trivial, entry_64: remove whitespace at end of lines Ingo Molnar
2008-11-17 15:14   ` Alexander van Heukelum

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