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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>,
	heukelum@fastmail.fm, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Alexander van Heukelum <heukelum@mailshack.com>,
	Glauber Costa <gcosta@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC,v2] x86_64: save_args out of line
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:34:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081119103415.GA16516@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081118225336.60FFA1544EB@magilla.localdomain>


* Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com> wrote:

> > but that's the exception. Most of the annotations could be
> > auto-generated.
> 
> Not really.  An implicit .cfi_undefined can be auto-generated for an 
> unannotated instruction with an output register.  An implicit 
> .cfi_register can be auto-generated for an unannotated 
> register-to-register move.  An implicit .cfi_same_value can be 
> auto-generated when you can tell a register is being written with 
> the register or stack slot tha the current CFI state says holds the 
> caller's value of that register.  Beyond that, it gets into either 
> assumptions or hairy analysis of how stack slots are being used and 
> so forth.

i dont buy that argument at all.

Yes, of course full "no changes to the current code at all" automation 
is hard.

But _at minimum_ GAS should automate a large part of this and help us 
out syntactically: make it really easy to human-annotate instructions 
in a _minimal way_. Also, automate the easy bits while at it. Plus 
warn about missing annotations - nesting errors, etc. etc.

there's a ton of easy things GAS could do here that it does not do. 

> [...] Explicit (but simple) macros in the assembly is what I favor.

Yeah. This is the second-best option - but has some limitations. Still 
it is much better than what we have now.

What _clearly_ sucks is the current mess of:

        CFI_ADJUST_CFA_OFFSET   8
        /*CFI_REL_OFFSET        ss,0*/
        pushq %rax /* rsp */
        CFI_ADJUST_CFA_OFFSET   8
        CFI_REL_OFFSET  rsp,0
        pushq $(1<<9) /* eflags - interrupts on */
        CFI_ADJUST_CFA_OFFSET   8
        /*CFI_REL_OFFSET        rflags,0*/
        pushq $__KERNEL_CS /* cs */
        CFI_ADJUST_CFA_OFFSET   8
        /*CFI_REL_OFFSET        cs,0*/
        pushq \child_rip /* rip */
        CFI_ADJUST_CFA_OFFSET   8
        CFI_REL_OFFSET  rip,0
        pushq   %rax /* orig rax */
        CFI_ADJUST_CFA_OFFSET   8

Compared to what we could have (stupid mockup):

        pushq_cf1 %rax			/* rsp */
        pushq_cf1 $(1<<9)		/* eflags - interrupts on */
        pushq_cf1 $__KERNEL_CS		/* cs */
        pushq_cf2 \child_rip		/* rip */
        pushq_cf1 %rax			/* orig rax */

Whoever claims that this cannot be automated in _large_ part isnt 
thinking it through really. Those CFI annotations should never have 
been added in this form.

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-19 10:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-16 14:29 [PATCH] trivial, entry_64: remove whitespace at end of lines Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-16 14:29 ` [RFC] x86: save_args out of line Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-17 12:14   ` Glauber Costa
2008-11-17 15:13     ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-17 12:53   ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-17 15:37     ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-17 18:23       ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-17 19:22         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-17 19:29           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-17 19:49             ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-17 19:54               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-17 19:43           ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-17 19:49             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-17 17:52   ` [RFC,v2] x86_64: " Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-18  8:09     ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-18 11:16       ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-18 12:51         ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-18 14:03           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 14:52             ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-18 15:00               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 22:53                 ` Roland McGrath
2008-11-18 23:35                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-18 23:36                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-18 23:44                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-19  0:08                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-18 23:45                     ` Roland McGrath
2008-11-19  0:06                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-19  0:01                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-19 10:34                   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-11-19 20:09                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-19  0:18     ` [PATCH/RFC] Move entry_64.S register saving out of the macros Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-19 17:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-19 20:16         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-20 13:40       ` [PATCH] x86: clean up after: move " Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-20 14:01         ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-20 15:04         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-20 15:26           ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-20 15:39             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-20 15:50               ` [PATCH] x86: clean up after: move entry_64.S register savingout " Jan Beulich
2008-11-20 15:57               ` [PATCH] x86: clean up after: move entry_64.S register saving out " Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-20 16:07                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-20 16:29                 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-20 17:24                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-21 15:41               ` [PATCH] x86: Introduce save_rest and restructure the PTREGSCALL macro in entry_64.S Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-21 15:43                 ` [PATCH] x86: entry_64.S: Factor out save_paranoid and paranoid_exit Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-21 15:44                   ` [PATCH] Split out some macro's and move common code to paranoid_exit Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-21 16:06                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-23  9:08                       ` [PATCH] x86: include ENTRY/END in entry handlers in entry_64.S Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-23  9:15                         ` [PATCH] x86: KPROBE_ENTRY should be paired wth KPROBE_END Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-23 13:27                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-23 13:51                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 14:12                               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 14:55                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-23 15:04                                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 15:04                                 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-23 15:12                                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 15:31                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-23 15:41                                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 15:37                                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 16:29                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-24  9:17                           ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-24 10:26                             ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-24 10:35                               ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-24 12:24                                 ` [PATCH] x86_64: get rid of the use of KPROBE_ENTRY / KPROBE_END Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-24 13:33                                   ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-24 14:38                                     ` [PATCH] i386: " Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-23  9:21                         ` [PATCH] x86: include ENTRY/END in entry handlers in entry_64.S Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 11:23                           ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-23 11:35                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 20:13                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-24 10:06                               ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-24 18:07                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-23 13:23                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-17  9:47 ` [PATCH] trivial, entry_64: remove whitespace at end of lines Ingo Molnar
2008-11-17 15:14   ` Alexander van Heukelum

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