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From: "Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@novell.com>
To: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: <heukelum@fastmail.fm>, "Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Alexander van Heukelum" <heukelum@mailshack.com>,
	"Glauber Costa" <gcosta@redhat.com>,
	"LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Nick Piggin" <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC,v2] x86_64: save_args out of line
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:52:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4922E4D4.76E4.0078.0@novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081118140349.GC23479@elte.hu>

>>> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> 18.11.08 15:03 >>>
>* Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com> wrote:
>> No tool, if you mean that. Extensive changes I verify by looking at 
>> the dump, problems are usually found only when back traces don't 
>> come out right.
>
>that's a fundamental weakness of all the CFI annotations.
>
>It is outright wrong to waste humans on this mechanic task: as it is 

This part I agree to.

>abundantly clear to GAS where we change a stack pointer and by how 
>much - it could emit magic annotations automatically just as much.
>
>So if you care about it, please fix this in the tools space. The 
>entry_64.S impact of finegrained annotations is just too ugly for 
>things like this.
>
>One limited exception is for basic stack frames where we do syscalls 
>or call into other C code. (i.e. the patch proposed here would have to 
>do that limited annotation)
>
>But the per instruction annotations currently in that code are madness 
>and must either be cleaned up significantly via the use of GAS macros 
>(so that all stack pointer manipulations go via a single macro 
>invocation), or be completely auto-generated by GAS.

Making gas auto-generate this is not really possible (much like ia64
requires the annotations to be inserted manually), mainly because gas
can't know whether e.g. a push of a register is in order to preserve its
value, or for some other purpose.

I do have a set of macros for this in nlkd, maybe (as you're asking for it)
I should get them out of there (and convert them to AT&T syntax).

Jan


  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-18 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-16 14:29 [PATCH] trivial, entry_64: remove whitespace at end of lines Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-16 14:29 ` [RFC] x86: save_args out of line Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-17 12:14   ` Glauber Costa
2008-11-17 15:13     ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-17 12:53   ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-17 15:37     ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-17 18:23       ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-17 19:22         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-17 19:29           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-17 19:49             ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-17 19:54               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-17 19:43           ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-17 19:49             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-17 17:52   ` [RFC,v2] x86_64: " Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-18  8:09     ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-18 11:16       ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-18 12:51         ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-18 14:03           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 14:52             ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2008-11-18 15:00               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 22:53                 ` Roland McGrath
2008-11-18 23:35                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-18 23:36                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-18 23:44                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-19  0:08                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-11-18 23:45                     ` Roland McGrath
2008-11-19  0:06                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-19  0:01                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-19 10:34                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-19 20:09                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-19  0:18     ` [PATCH/RFC] Move entry_64.S register saving out of the macros Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-19 17:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-19 20:16         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-20 13:40       ` [PATCH] x86: clean up after: move " Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-20 14:01         ` Andi Kleen
2008-11-20 15:04         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-20 15:26           ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-20 15:39             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-20 15:50               ` [PATCH] x86: clean up after: move entry_64.S register savingout " Jan Beulich
2008-11-20 15:57               ` [PATCH] x86: clean up after: move entry_64.S register saving out " Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-20 16:07                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-20 16:29                 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-20 17:24                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-21 15:41               ` [PATCH] x86: Introduce save_rest and restructure the PTREGSCALL macro in entry_64.S Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-21 15:43                 ` [PATCH] x86: entry_64.S: Factor out save_paranoid and paranoid_exit Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-21 15:44                   ` [PATCH] Split out some macro's and move common code to paranoid_exit Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-21 16:06                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-23  9:08                       ` [PATCH] x86: include ENTRY/END in entry handlers in entry_64.S Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-23  9:15                         ` [PATCH] x86: KPROBE_ENTRY should be paired wth KPROBE_END Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-23 13:27                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-23 13:51                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 14:12                               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 14:55                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-23 15:04                                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 15:04                                 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-23 15:12                                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 15:31                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-23 15:41                                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 15:37                                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 16:29                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-24  9:17                           ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-24 10:26                             ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-24 10:35                               ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-24 12:24                                 ` [PATCH] x86_64: get rid of the use of KPROBE_ENTRY / KPROBE_END Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-24 13:33                                   ` Jan Beulich
2008-11-24 14:38                                     ` [PATCH] i386: " Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-23  9:21                         ` [PATCH] x86: include ENTRY/END in entry handlers in entry_64.S Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 11:23                           ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-23 11:35                             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2008-11-23 20:13                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-24 10:06                               ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-11-24 18:07                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-11-23 13:23                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-17  9:47 ` [PATCH] trivial, entry_64: remove whitespace at end of lines Ingo Molnar
2008-11-17 15:14   ` Alexander van Heukelum

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