From: David Brownell <david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Trent Piepho <tpiepho-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jean Delvare <khali-PUYAD+kWke1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
Linux I2C <linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
lm-sensors-GZX6beZjE8VD60Wz+7aTrA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] [patch 2.6.27-rc7] i2c: smbalert# support
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:56:36 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200811201456.36551.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0811201354310.11673-3bmvVOk6DZ+DGx/iekXGtrjh7zpefjiS@public.gmane.org>
On Thursday 20 November 2008, Trent Piepho wrote:
> >
> > Did you actually check the size increase? struct i2c_driver is added
> > one pointer, so 4 or 8 bytes, hardly worth mentioning. struct
> > i2c_adapter is added 72 bytes on x86-64, to 1360 bytes initially so an
> > increase of less than 6%. Is this really such a big issue? I doubt it.
> > You don't have that many i2c_adapters registered on any given system
> > for it to really matter, methinks.
>
> Except every other subsystem in the kernel does the same thing. Each release
> of 2.6 is significantly more bloated than the last and this is how it happens.
> One "it's not that much wasted" change at a time.
I do recall the "4 MByte performance problem" morphing into the "8 MByte"
problem, and then into the "16 MByte" version then "32 MByte" -- for UNIX
workstations, including GUI. Today's handhelds are more powerful than
those! And the embedded boards I get lately have 128 MB of RAM.
The real counter-argument is that memory isn't *that* tight, especially
since the hardware capacity is growing.
That said, maybe you have a patch to propose which would address the
problem of how to *cleanly* make this infrastructure optional?
- Dave
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Trent Piepho <tpiepho-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jean Delvare <khali-PUYAD+kWke1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
Linux I2C <linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
lm-sensors-GZX6beZjE8VD60Wz+7aTrA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] [patch 2.6.27-rc7] i2c: smbalert# support
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:56:36 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200811201456.36551.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0811201354310.11673-3bmvVOk6DZ+DGx/iekXGtrjh7zpefjiS@public.gmane.org>
On Thursday 20 November 2008, Trent Piepho wrote:
> >
> > Did you actually check the size increase? struct i2c_driver is added
> > one pointer, so 4 or 8 bytes, hardly worth mentioning. struct
> > i2c_adapter is added 72 bytes on x86-64, to 1360 bytes initially so an
> > increase of less than 6%. Is this really such a big issue? I doubt it.
> > You don't have that many i2c_adapters registered on any given system
> > for it to really matter, methinks.
>
> Except every other subsystem in the kernel does the same thing. Each release
> of 2.6 is significantly more bloated than the last and this is how it happens.
> One "it's not that much wasted" change at a time.
I do recall the "4 MByte performance problem" morphing into the "8 MByte"
problem, and then into the "16 MByte" version then "32 MByte" -- for UNIX
workstations, including GUI. Today's handhelds are more powerful than
those! And the embedded boards I get lately have 128 MB of RAM.
The real counter-argument is that memory isn't *that* tight, especially
since the hardware capacity is growing.
That said, maybe you have a patch to propose which would address the
problem of how to *cleanly* make this infrastructure optional?
- Dave
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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-16 12:34 [lm-sensors] lm75: Convert to new-style I2C driver Laurent Pinchart
2008-04-16 13:30 ` Jean Delvare
2008-04-16 13:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2008-04-16 14:04 ` Jean Delvare
2008-04-16 17:27 ` David Brownell
[not found] ` <200804161027.49943.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-02 11:10 ` [patch 2.6.25-git] i2c: smbalert# support David Brownell
[not found] ` <200805020410.44723.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-05 5:56 ` [patch 2.6.265-rc1] " David Brownell
[not found] ` <200805042256.49252.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-23 22:32 ` [patch 2.6.27-rc7] " David Brownell
2008-09-23 22:32 ` [lm-sensors] " David Brownell
[not found] ` <200809231532.40083.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-26 1:07 ` Trent Piepho
2008-09-26 1:07 ` Trent Piepho
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809251728130.7680-3bmvVOk6DZ+DGx/iekXGtrjh7zpefjiS@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-26 2:01 ` David Brownell
2008-09-26 2:01 ` David Brownell
[not found] ` <200809251902.00201.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-27 0:29 ` Trent Piepho
2008-09-27 0:29 ` Trent Piepho
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809261652040.7680-3bmvVOk6DZ+DGx/iekXGtrjh7zpefjiS@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-17 19:04 ` David Brownell
2008-10-17 19:04 ` David Brownell
[not found] ` <200810171204.54448.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-17 20:43 ` Trent Piepho
2008-10-17 20:43 ` [lm-sensors] [i2c] " Trent Piepho
2008-11-18 8:15 ` Jean Delvare
2008-11-18 8:15 ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20081118091546.421d6b78-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-18 22:01 ` David Brownell
2008-11-18 22:01 ` [lm-sensors] " David Brownell
[not found] ` <200811181401.34809.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-19 9:51 ` Trent Piepho
2008-11-19 9:51 ` Trent Piepho
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0811190140510.11673-3bmvVOk6DZ+DGx/iekXGtrjh7zpefjiS@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-19 15:16 ` Jean Delvare
2008-11-19 15:16 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20081119161632.2d0bde9e-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-20 22:00 ` Trent Piepho
2008-11-20 22:00 ` Trent Piepho
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0811201354310.11673-3bmvVOk6DZ+DGx/iekXGtrjh7zpefjiS@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-20 22:56 ` David Brownell [this message]
2008-11-20 22:56 ` David Brownell
[not found] ` <200811201456.36551.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-22 0:55 ` Trent Piepho
2008-11-22 0:55 ` Trent Piepho
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0811211621340.18022-3bmvVOk6DZ+DGx/iekXGtrjh7zpefjiS@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-22 2:58 ` David Brownell
2008-11-22 2:58 ` David Brownell
2008-11-21 8:42 ` Jean Delvare
2008-11-21 8:42 ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20081121094218.34ecd82a-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-22 6:04 ` Trent Piepho
2008-11-22 6:04 ` [lm-sensors] " Trent Piepho
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0811212122370.18022-3bmvVOk6DZ+DGx/iekXGtrjh7zpefjiS@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-22 10:13 ` Jean Delvare
2008-11-22 10:13 ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20081122111340.0bfc2c05-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-22 20:28 ` Trent Piepho
2008-11-22 20:28 ` [lm-sensors] " Trent Piepho
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0811221055470.18022-3bmvVOk6DZ+DGx/iekXGtrjh7zpefjiS@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-23 21:45 ` Jean Delvare
2008-11-23 21:45 ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2008-11-19 13:57 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20081119145712.1abaa63f-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-19 18:08 ` David Brownell
2008-11-21 14:18 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20081121151808.324ca78c-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-21 16:24 ` David Brownell
[not found] ` <200811210824.55601.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-21 19:22 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20081121202223.0261fb9c-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-21 21:54 ` David Brownell
[not found] ` <200811211354.51501.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-22 9:03 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20081122100344.61cf42b7-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-22 9:48 ` David Brownell
2008-04-16 17:52 ` [lm-sensors] lm75: Convert to new-style I2C driver David Brownell
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