From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>,
Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
mingo@redhat.com, val.henson@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] relatime: Allow making relatime the default behaviour
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 14:57:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081129135742.GC11959@logfs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081129130308.GX25548@parisc-linux.org>
On Sat, 29 November 2008 06:03:08 -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>
> That would imply that relatime could be different per-mountpoint.
>
> I favour not making it configurable at all.
I guess some amount if configuration may be necessary. If you go back
to the beginning of the thread...
On Wed, 26 November 2008 19:54:57 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>
> Allow atime to be updated once per day even with relatime enabled. This
> lets utilities like tmpreaper (which deletes files based on last access
> time) continue working.
...and check the tmpreaper manpage, you will notice that tmpreaper can
be configured as well. So relatime has a default timeout of T and
tmpreaper is configured to delete files after 1/2 T (never mind what T
might be), the system breaks. Guessing a value of T that is good enough
for everyone is a complicated business, so one configurable makes sense
imo.
One per mountpoint is rather silly, of course.
Jörn
--
Mundie uses a textbook tactic of manipulation: start with some
reasonable talk, and lead the audience to an unreasonable conclusion.
-- Bruce Perens
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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>,
Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
mingo@redhat.com, val.henson@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] relatime: Allow making relatime the default behaviour
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 14:57:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081129135742.GC11959@logfs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081129130308.GX25548@parisc-linux.org>
On Sat, 29 November 2008 06:03:08 -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>
> That would imply that relatime could be different per-mountpoint.
>
> I favour not making it configurable at all.
I guess some amount if configuration may be necessary. If you go back
to the beginning of the thread...
On Wed, 26 November 2008 19:54:57 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>
> Allow atime to be updated once per day even with relatime enabled. This
> lets utilities like tmpreaper (which deletes files based on last access
> time) continue working.
...and check the tmpreaper manpage, you will notice that tmpreaper can
be configured as well. So relatime has a default timeout of T and
tmpreaper is configured to delete files after 1/2 T (never mind what T
might be), the system breaks. Guessing a value of T that is good enough
for everyone is a complicated business, so one configurable makes sense
imo.
One per mountpoint is rather silly, of course.
Jörn
--
Mundie uses a textbook tactic of manipulation: start with some
reasonable talk, and lead the audience to an unreasonable conclusion.
-- Bruce Perens
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-29 13:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-26 19:54 [PATCH 1/2] relatime: Make atime updates more useful Matthew Garrett
2008-11-26 19:58 ` [PATCH 2/2] relatime: Allow making relatime the default behaviour Matthew Garrett
2008-11-26 21:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-26 22:39 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-11-27 15:01 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] relatime: Make relatime behaviour smarter Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 15:03 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] relatime: Allow making relatime the default behaviour Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 15:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-27 16:03 ` Karel Zak
2008-11-27 17:30 ` Pádraig Brady
2008-11-27 17:30 ` Pádraig Brady
2008-11-27 17:39 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 17:39 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 16:35 ` Alan Cox
2008-11-27 16:47 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 16:59 ` [PATCH v3] relatime: Make relatime smarter Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 17:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-11-27 17:58 ` [PATCH v4] " Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 22:08 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-11-27 22:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-28 11:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-28 13:41 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-28 11:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-28 13:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-28 13:47 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-12-02 11:10 ` Karel Zak
2008-12-02 16:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-27 19:15 ` [PATCH v3] " Alan Cox
2008-11-28 11:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-28 13:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] relatime: Allow making relatime the default behaviour Christoph Hellwig
2008-11-29 8:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 13:03 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-29 13:57 ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2008-11-29 13:57 ` Jörn Engel
2008-11-29 18:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-29 18:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-29 19:02 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-29 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 20:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-11-29 20:56 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-29 21:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-29 20:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-11-29 21:03 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-29 21:02 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-27 15:06 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] relatime: Make relatime behaviour smarter Ingo Molnar
2008-11-29 8:29 ` [PATCH 1/2] relatime: Make atime updates more useful Andrew Morton
2008-12-02 17:19 ` [PATCH] relatime: Let relatime update atime at least once per day Matthew Garrett
2008-12-13 5:26 ` Valerie Aurora Henson
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