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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org, lenb@kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	tiwai@suse.de, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500 (bisected)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 01:00:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200812030100.18400.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0812021518160.3256@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>

On Wednesday, 3 of December 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > 
> > * dmesg output including one hibernation-resume cycle from 2.6.28-rc7 with the
> >   debug patch (appended for completness):
> > 
> >   http://www.sisk.pl/kernel/debug/mainline/2.6.28-rc7/dmesg-rc7-patched-prep.log
> > 
> > * dmesg output including one hibernation-resume cycle from 2.6.28-rc7 without
> >   the debug patch:
> > 
> >   http://www.sisk.pl/kernel/debug/mainline/2.6.28-rc7/dmesg-rc7-nopatch-prep.log
> 
> As with Frans, the debug patch seems to make no difference what-so-ever. 
> Yes, the cardbus regions get allocated differently, but they're fine in 
> either case, and arguably (exactly as with Frans) the debug patch actually 
> makes things uglier by actively getting the alignment wrong, and skipping 
> cardbus setup until later.

Hm, what about (from the copy of /proc/iomem without the patch at
http://www.sisk.pl/kernel/debug/mainline/2.6.28-rc7/rc7-nopatch/iomem):

88000000-8bffffff : PCI Bus 0000:03
  88000000-8bffffff : PCI CardBus 0000:04
8c000000-91ffffff : PCI Bus 0000:03
  8c000000-8fffffff : PCI CardBus 0000:04

(1) Why two ranges are allocated for 0000:03 without the patch while there is
    only one range with the patch:

88000000-880fffff : PCI Bus 0000:03

    (copy of the file at
    http://www.sisk.pl/kernel/debug/mainline/2.6.28-rc7/rc7-patched/iomem)?
    That seems to look like a difference to me.

(2) Why are they so large without the patch while with the patch they are much
    smaller (O(2^28) vs O(2^21) if I'm not mistaken)?

(3) Why are they overlapping with the ranges for CardBus 0000:04, although
    without the patch they aren't?  Is that actually correct at all?

> That's what your patch (without debugging) should have resulted in too, 
> except you'd not have seen the "bad alignment flags" printout, of course 
> (but you probably would have seen the "bad alignment 0: [...]" one).

Yes, I saw that:

bad alignment flags 21200 4000000 (0)
pci 0000:03:0b.0: BAR 9 bad alignment 0: [0x000000-0x3ffffff]
bad alignment flags 20200 4000000 (0)
pci 0000:03:0b.0: BAR 10 bad alignment 0: [0x000000-0x3ffffff]

> In fact, I'm starting to think I know why we set up the prefetch window 
> without the patch, and why we don't with it - because with the patch, the 
> PCI code ends up never seeing any valid prefetchable region for the 
> cardbus controller at all, so it never even bothers to try to set up a 
> prefetchable window.
> 
> So in many ways, the debug patch that gets the alignment wrong (on 
> purpose) is really the inferior one. Plain -rc7 seems to do everything 
> right.

Well, I'm not sure ...

> > * diff between the two:
> > 
> >   http://www.sisk.pl/kernel/debug/mainline/2.6.28-rc7/dmesg-rc7_nopatch-rc7_patched.diff
> 
> Gaah. Using "-U 0" is likely the least readable form of diffs there 
> exists, even if it makes the diff smaller.

Sorry.

To me it's more readable this way, but well.

> > This part of the diff  (+ is the patched one) seems to be particularly
> > interesting to me, especially the overlapping MEM windows for 0000:00:1e.0 and
> > 0000:03:0b.0 (may that be the reason for the observed failures?):
> 
> No, those are very much on purpose. 
> 
> Device 0000:00:1e.0 is the PCI bridge that bridges to PCI bus#3, so the 
> MEM window is very much intentional - exactly because MMIO goes through 
> that PCI bridge bus to get to bus#3, which is where the cardbus controller 
> is.
> 
> IOW, the topology is as follows: 
>  - CPU is on the root bus (bus #0)
>  - device 00:1e.0 is the PCI bridge to bus #3
>  - device 03:0b.0 is the CardBus bridge (to bus #4)
> and any actual cardbus cards (if you had any) would be on that bus #4, so 
> they'd be named "04:xx.y".
> 
> Now, that PCI bridge 00:1e.0 is a transparent bridge (aka "[Subtractive 
> decode]" in your lspci output - as compared to the other bridges that say 
> "[Normal decode]"), which means that you don't actually _have_ to set up 
> any MMIO window on them, since the bridge will forward _any_ PCI cycles 
> that don't get responded to by any other PCI device.
> 
> But having an explicit window is still generally a good idea, since it 
> should allow the PCI bridge to pick up the PCI cycles earlier (no need to 
> wait to see if others respond to it), and possibly allows for better 
> prefetching behavior. So again, the dmesg and the PCI layout actually 
> looks _better_ without the hacky patch.
> 
> So are you saying that the unpatched kernel still reliably doesn't 
> hibernate for you, while the (arguably _incorrect_) patched kernel 
> reliably does hibernate?

Yes, I am.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-03  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 186+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-02  2:20 Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500 (bisected) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-02  3:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-02  3:42   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-02  4:31     ` Frans Pop
2008-12-02  4:46       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-02  5:29         ` Frans Pop
2008-12-02  5:56           ` Frans Pop
2008-12-02 15:46           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-02 17:46             ` Frans Pop
2008-12-02 18:17               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05  8:53             ` MSI changes in .28 Frans Pop
2008-12-05  9:09               ` Yinghai Lu
2008-12-05 12:20               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-05 13:04                 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-05 17:49                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-12-02  4:13   ` Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500 (bisected) Frans Pop
2008-12-02  4:36     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-02 22:38       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-02 23:37         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-03  0:00           ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2008-12-03  0:05             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03  0:31             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03  0:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-03  1:22               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03  2:02                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-03  7:40                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03  7:52                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 11:20                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 15:53                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-04  1:23                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-04  4:40                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-04  8:21                               ` Frans Pop
2008-12-04 22:01                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-04 11:29                           ` Frans Pop
2008-12-04 16:17                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-04 18:00                               ` Frans Pop
2008-12-04 20:03                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 21:26                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 22:01                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 22:14                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06  0:04                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06  0:50                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06  1:18                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06  1:55                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06  2:18                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 13:53                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06  2:45                                                 ` Greg KH
2009-01-28 12:00                                     ` Frans Pop
2009-01-29 14:11                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29 14:48                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-29 16:44                                           ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2009-01-30  4:35                                         ` Frans Pop
2008-12-06  9:20                                   ` [patch,rfc] usb: restore config before enabling device on resume Frans Pop
2008-12-06 13:48                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 15:02                                       ` Frans Pop
2008-12-10 14:06                                   ` "APIC error on CPU1: 00(40)" during resume (was: Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500) Frans Pop
2008-12-10 15:51                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-10 16:05                                       ` Frans Pop
2008-12-10 16:26                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-10 16:52                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2008-12-10 17:13                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-10 17:33                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-10 18:41                                             ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-20 21:31                                             ` "APIC error on CPU1: 00(40)" during resume Frans Pop
2008-12-21  8:29                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-23  4:28                                                 ` Len Brown
2008-12-04 22:46                                 ` Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500 (bisected) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-04 22:40                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-04 23:22                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-04 23:45                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05  0:07                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05  0:20                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05  6:55                                     ` Frans Pop
2008-12-04 22:09                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-04 22:20                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-04 23:31                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05  0:03                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05  0:45                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05  1:08                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05  1:45                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05  2:55                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05  3:25                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05  6:44                                               ` Frans Pop
2008-12-05  8:27                                                 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-05 12:00                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 15:57                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 21:32                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 17:25                                               ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-02 15:49   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:05 ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix hibernation regression on Toshiba Portege R500 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:07   ` [PATCH 1/3] PCI: Rework default handling of suspend and resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:07     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:22       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:22       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:33         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:43           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:43           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 18:00             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 18:00               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 21:24               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 21:24               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07  4:44               ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-07  4:44               ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-07  5:41               ` Greg KH
2008-12-07 12:47                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 12:47                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 16:44                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07 16:44                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07 21:02                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 21:02                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 17:26                   ` Greg KH
2008-12-07 17:26                   ` Greg KH
2008-12-07 23:34                     ` [PATCH 1/3] PCI: Rework default handling of suspend and resume (rebased) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 23:34                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07  5:41               ` [PATCH 1/3] PCI: Rework default handling of suspend and resume Greg KH
2008-12-06 18:30             ` Alan Stern
2008-12-06 18:30             ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-12-06 21:36               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 21:36                 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 22:24                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 22:24                 ` [linux-pm] " Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 23:25                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-06 23:35                     ` Alan Cox
2008-12-06 23:35                     ` [linux-pm] " Alan Cox
2008-12-07  6:00                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07  6:03                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07 13:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 16:34                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07 16:34                           ` [linux-pm] " Linus Torvalds
2008-12-14  9:28                             ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-14  9:28                             ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2008-12-07 17:18                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-07 17:18                           ` [linux-pm] " Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-07 13:39                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07  6:03                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07  9:44                       ` [linux-pm] " Takashi Iwai
2008-12-07 12:30                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07  9:44                       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-07  6:00                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 23:25                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-07  0:02                 ` Alan Stern
2008-12-07  0:02                 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-12-07 13:14                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 13:14                     ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-08 22:13                 ` USB suspend and resume for PCI host controllers Alan Stern
2008-12-06 21:09             ` [PATCH 1/3] PCI: Rework default handling of suspend and resume Alan Cox
2008-12-06 21:09               ` Alan Cox
2008-12-06 21:50               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 21:50               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:33         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 14:07   ` [PATCH 2/3] PCI: Suspend and resume PCI Express ports with interrupts disabled Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:15     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:15     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:25       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:25       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:38         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:38         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:46           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07  2:18             ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-07 12:53               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 12:53               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07  2:18             ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-06 17:46           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:07   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:09   ` [PATCH 3/3] Sound (HDA Intel): Restore PCI configuration space with interrupts off Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07  4:45     ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-07  9:47       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-11  7:07         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-11  7:07         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-11 20:03           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-11 20:03           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-11 20:27             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-11 20:38               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-11 20:38               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-12  6:32                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-12  6:32                 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-11 20:27             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-07  9:47       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-07  4:45     ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-06 14:09   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 19:30   ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix hibernation regression on Toshiba Portege R500 Frans Pop
2008-12-06 19:30   ` Frans Pop
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-12-02  7:53 Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500 (bisected) Frans Pop

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