From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org, lenb@kernel.org,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
tiwai@suse.de, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500 (bisected)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 02:23:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200812040223.54341.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0812030735230.3256@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>
On Wednesday, 3 of December 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >
> > Then, voila!, I'm not able to reproduce the hibernation-resume failure.
> >
> > This appears to mean that:
> > (1) The sizes of the allocations and the locations of devices in the memory
> > address space don't matter here.
> > (2) The presence and size of the prefetchable memory window don't matter here.
> > (3) What matters is the presence of non-prefetchable memory window on the
> > supposedly transparent bridge. Namely, if the window is there, resume from
> > hibernation occasionally fails (again, the size of the window and the
> > location of it in the memory address space doesn't seem to matter).
>
> That is indeed rather odd, and very interesting.
>
> > So, apparently, on this box (and I guess on Frans' too) we could avoid the
> > problem if we didn't allocate the non-prefetchable memory window in
> > pci_bus_size_cardbus(), but I guess that wouldn't be generally correct.
>
> Well, I think that what _would_ be generally correct, and actually pretty
> simple, is a rather different approach: just not sizing things behind a
> transparent bridge AT ALL, since it really shouldn't matter.
>
> So if the appended patch fixes things for you, I think this might
> potentially be the right approach.
>
> NOTE NOTE NOTE! This patch is entirely untested, as usual. I didn't check
> that this is necessarily the correct place to test for this, but it
> does make sense. IOW, it _feels_ like the rigth thing.
Yes, it _looks_ sane.
> However, even if it fixes things for you, I think we're too late in the
> 2.6.28 cycle to really apply this.
Absolutely.
> So it really does make sense to consider a root bridge and a transparent
> one to be equivalent here, since in both cases any bridge windows should
> be irrelevant. Which is why I think this patch is interesting.
>
> > Also, I would be happy to actually understand _why_ this happens.
>
> 100% agreed. I do _not_ see why it should ever matter how we set up a PCI
> bridging window - whether prefetchable or not - on a bridge that should be
> transparent. It sounds really odd. I'm wondering if there is something
> we're missing here.
>
> But apart from the existence of the bridging window, the only thing that
> it seems to affect is really just a minor layour issue. So it does seem
> like it matters. Odd.
Well, in principle it may be related to the way we handle bridges during
resume, but I really need to read some docs and compare them with the code
before I can say anything more about that. Surely, nothing like this issue has
ever been reported before.
Anyway, thanks for the patch, I'm going to try it tomorrow.
Best,
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-04 1:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 186+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-02 2:20 Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500 (bisected) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-02 3:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-02 3:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-02 4:31 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-02 4:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-02 5:29 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-02 5:56 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-02 15:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-02 17:46 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-02 18:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 8:53 ` MSI changes in .28 Frans Pop
2008-12-05 9:09 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-12-05 12:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-05 13:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-05 17:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-12-02 4:13 ` Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500 (bisected) Frans Pop
2008-12-02 4:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-02 22:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-02 23:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-03 0:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 0:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 0:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 0:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-03 1:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 2:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-03 7:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 7:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 11:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-03 15:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-04 1:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2008-12-04 4:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-04 8:21 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-04 22:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-04 11:29 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-04 16:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-04 18:00 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-04 20:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 22:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 0:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 0:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 1:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 1:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 2:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 13:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 2:45 ` Greg KH
2009-01-28 12:00 ` Frans Pop
2009-01-29 14:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29 14:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-29 16:44 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2009-01-30 4:35 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-06 9:20 ` [patch,rfc] usb: restore config before enabling device on resume Frans Pop
2008-12-06 13:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 15:02 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-10 14:06 ` "APIC error on CPU1: 00(40)" during resume (was: Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500) Frans Pop
2008-12-10 15:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-10 16:05 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-10 16:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-10 16:52 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-12-10 17:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-10 17:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-10 18:41 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-20 21:31 ` "APIC error on CPU1: 00(40)" during resume Frans Pop
2008-12-21 8:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-23 4:28 ` Len Brown
2008-12-04 22:46 ` Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500 (bisected) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-04 22:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-04 23:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-04 23:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 0:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 0:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 6:55 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-04 22:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-04 22:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-04 23:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 0:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 0:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 1:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 1:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 2:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 3:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 6:44 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-05 8:27 ` Frans Pop
2008-12-05 12:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 15:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-05 21:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-05 17:25 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-02 15:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:05 ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix hibernation regression on Toshiba Portege R500 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:07 ` [PATCH 1/3] PCI: Rework default handling of suspend and resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 21:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 21:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 4:44 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-07 4:44 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-07 5:41 ` Greg KH
2008-12-07 5:41 ` Greg KH
2008-12-07 12:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 12:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07 21:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 21:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 17:26 ` Greg KH
2008-12-07 23:34 ` [PATCH 1/3] PCI: Rework default handling of suspend and resume (rebased) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 23:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 17:26 ` [PATCH 1/3] PCI: Rework default handling of suspend and resume Greg KH
2008-12-06 18:30 ` Alan Stern
2008-12-06 18:30 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-12-06 21:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 21:36 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 22:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 23:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-06 23:25 ` [linux-pm] " Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-06 23:35 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-06 23:35 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Cox
2008-12-07 6:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07 6:00 ` [linux-pm] " Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07 6:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07 13:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 13:39 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 16:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07 16:34 ` [linux-pm] " Linus Torvalds
2008-12-14 9:28 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-14 9:28 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2008-12-07 17:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-07 17:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-12-07 6:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07 9:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-07 9:44 ` [linux-pm] " Takashi Iwai
2008-12-07 12:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 22:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-07 0:02 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-12-07 13:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 13:14 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 0:02 ` Alan Stern
2008-12-08 22:13 ` USB suspend and resume for PCI host controllers Alan Stern
2008-12-06 21:09 ` [PATCH 1/3] PCI: Rework default handling of suspend and resume Alan Cox
2008-12-06 21:09 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-06 21:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 21:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:07 ` [PATCH 2/3] PCI: Suspend and resume PCI Express ports with interrupts disabled Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 17:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 2:18 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-07 12:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 12:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 2:18 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-06 17:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 17:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 14:09 ` [PATCH 3/3] Sound (HDA Intel): Restore PCI configuration space with interrupts off Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-06 14:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 4:45 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-07 4:45 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-12-07 9:47 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-11 7:07 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-11 7:07 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-11 20:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-11 20:27 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-11 20:27 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-11 20:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-11 20:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-12 6:32 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-12 6:32 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-11 20:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-07 9:47 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-06 19:30 ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix hibernation regression on Toshiba Portege R500 Frans Pop
2008-12-06 19:30 ` Frans Pop
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-12-02 7:53 Regression from 2.6.26: Hibernation (possibly suspend) broken on Toshiba R500 (bisected) Frans Pop
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