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From: Jean Delvare <khali-PUYAD+kWke1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
To: Ed Swierk <eswierk-BGArkANP9klv6pq1l3V1OdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-i2c-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	David Brownell <david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Alessandro Zummo
	<a.zummo-BfzFCNDTiLLj+vYz1yj4TQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	BARRE Sebastien <sbarre-6lXSvc0s5hDQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rtc-ds1307: True SMBus compatibility
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:24:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090107142426.4be04d4d@hyperion.delvare> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1231177261.13443.20.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>

Hi Ed,

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:41:01 -0800, Ed Swierk wrote:
> [Resent to correct linux-i2c address]
> 
> Following up to Sebastien Barre's recent patch, here I go one step
> further, replacing i2c block transfers with SMBus byte transfers.

Please, no. Adding a compatibility quirk may be acceptable, but forcing
everyone to use it instead of the more efficient original code is not
fair.

> Sticking to pure SMBus makes the driver work on our board, which has an
> nVidia SMBus controller driving a DS1339; nforce2 controllers
> unfortunately don't support any flavor of i2c block transfer.

Are you certain the nForce2 controllers can't do it? The i2c-nforce2
driver doesn't implement it, but this doesn't mean the hardware can't
do it. I don't have any datasheet for these chips, but I know their
SMBus implementation is very similar to those of the AMD 8111, and
i2c-amd8111 has support for I2C block reads and writes. I think it
would be worth giving it a try, by copying the i2c-amd8111
implementation into the i2c-nforce2 driver and seeing if it happens to
just work. If it works, that would be more elegant than your proposed
hack to the rtc-ds1307 driver.

> Reading or writing registers repeatedly until they stick is rather
> nauseating but I'm aiming for correctness if not elegance.  I would
> appreciate any suggestions for improvement.

See above.

-- 
Jean Delvare

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
To: Ed Swierk <eswierk@aristanetworks.com>
Cc: linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>,
	Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	BARRE Sebastien <sbarre@sdelcc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rtc-ds1307: True SMBus compatibility
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:24:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090107142426.4be04d4d@hyperion.delvare> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1231177261.13443.20.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hi Ed,

On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:41:01 -0800, Ed Swierk wrote:
> [Resent to correct linux-i2c address]
> 
> Following up to Sebastien Barre's recent patch, here I go one step
> further, replacing i2c block transfers with SMBus byte transfers.

Please, no. Adding a compatibility quirk may be acceptable, but forcing
everyone to use it instead of the more efficient original code is not
fair.

> Sticking to pure SMBus makes the driver work on our board, which has an
> nVidia SMBus controller driving a DS1339; nforce2 controllers
> unfortunately don't support any flavor of i2c block transfer.

Are you certain the nForce2 controllers can't do it? The i2c-nforce2
driver doesn't implement it, but this doesn't mean the hardware can't
do it. I don't have any datasheet for these chips, but I know their
SMBus implementation is very similar to those of the AMD 8111, and
i2c-amd8111 has support for I2C block reads and writes. I think it
would be worth giving it a try, by copying the i2c-amd8111
implementation into the i2c-nforce2 driver and seeing if it happens to
just work. If it works, that would be more elegant than your proposed
hack to the rtc-ds1307 driver.

> Reading or writing registers repeatedly until they stick is rather
> nauseating but I'm aiming for correctness if not elegance.  I would
> appreciate any suggestions for improvement.

See above.

-- 
Jean Delvare

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-07 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-05 17:41 [PATCH] rtc-ds1307: True SMBus compatibility Ed Swierk
2009-01-05 17:41 ` Ed Swierk
2009-01-06 22:48 ` David Brownell
     [not found] ` <1231177261.13443.20.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-07 13:24   ` Jean Delvare [this message]
2009-01-07 13:24     ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]     ` <20090107142426.4be04d4d-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-07 15:22       ` Ed Swierk
2009-01-07 15:22         ` Ed Swierk
     [not found]         ` <9ae48b020901070722l77bebc6boc8fa2fd0bcc8da28-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-07 15:27           ` Jean Delvare
2009-01-07 15:27             ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]             ` <20090107162709.755982c0-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-07 15:43               ` Ed Swierk
2009-01-07 15:43                 ` Ed Swierk
     [not found]                 ` <9ae48b020901070743x1a5eaf72k5314cd969dc580ef-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-07 15:49                   ` Jean Delvare
2009-01-07 15:49                     ` Jean Delvare
2009-01-19 23:59               ` Ed Swierk
2009-01-19 23:59                 ` Ed Swierk
     [not found]                 ` <1232409577.25123.11.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-20 10:43                   ` Jean Delvare
2009-01-20 10:43                     ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]                     ` <20090120114304.3b956189-ig7AzVSIIG7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-26  6:33                       ` Ed Swierk
2009-01-26  6:33                         ` Ed Swierk
     [not found]                         ` <1232951630.1329.4.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-26  9:37                           ` Jean Delvare
2009-01-26  9:37                             ` Jean Delvare
2009-01-26 21:06                           ` David Brownell
2009-01-26 21:06                             ` David Brownell
     [not found]                             ` <200901261306.21059.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-26 21:54                               ` Ed Swierk
2009-01-26 21:54                                 ` Ed Swierk
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-01-05 17:36 Ed Swierk
2009-01-06 13:35 ` BARRE Sebastien
2009-01-06 22:06   ` Alessandro Zummo
     [not found]   ` <C1C62166118DFA4A8BBA01A2411F0D171224AECDC1-iGzfJtNnmHkUlixSki3fykIJAyBIbWHDnAJcWxkt5PDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-06 22:13     ` Ed Swierk
2009-01-06 22:13       ` Ed Swierk
2009-01-07 14:22       ` BARRE Sebastien
2009-01-07 14:22         ` BARRE Sebastien

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