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From: Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	andi-Vw/NltI1exuRpAAqCnN02g@public.gmane.org,
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	alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] Remove fasync() BKL usage, take 3325
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:31:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090122213105.74142908.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090122221500.4c62aa54@tpl>

> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:15:00 -0700 Jonathan Corbet <corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:51:04 -0800
> Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> > OK, replacing a lock_kernel() with a spin_lock(&global_lock) is pretty
> > straightforwad.  But it's really really sad.  It basically leaves a
> > great big FIXME in there.  It'd be better to fix it.
> > 
> > We don't have a handy lock in struct file which could be borrowed.
> 
> Yeah, I noticed that too.
>  
> > - We could add one
> 
> The problem there is that this bloats struct file, and that seemed like
> something worth avoiding.

Not a big deal, really.  There's one of these for each presently-open file.
It's not like dentries and inodes, which we cache after userspace has
closed off the file handles.

>  It could easily be done, but I don't know
> why we would before knowing that the global spinlock is a problem. 
> 
> But... it's *already* protected by a global spinlock (the BKL) which is
> (still) more widely used.
> 
> > - We could borrow file->f_path.dentry->d_inode->i_lock
> 
> I didn't think of that one.  Using a lock which is three indirections
> away seems a little obscure; again, I guess we could do that if the
> global spinlock actually turns out to be a problem.
> 
> > - We could convert that field to long and use bitops (sounds nice?)
> 
> I did think of that one.  Reasons not to include growing struct file
> and the fact that there are places which set more than one flag at
> once.  So we'd replace assignments with loops - and we still don't
> solve the fasync() problem.
> 

I don't know what "the fasync() problem" is?
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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, andi@firstfloor.org,
	viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk, oleg@redhat.com,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] Remove fasync() BKL usage, take 3325
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:31:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090122213105.74142908.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090122221500.4c62aa54@tpl>

> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:15:00 -0700 Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:51:04 -0800
> Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > OK, replacing a lock_kernel() with a spin_lock(&global_lock) is pretty
> > straightforwad.  But it's really really sad.  It basically leaves a
> > great big FIXME in there.  It'd be better to fix it.
> > 
> > We don't have a handy lock in struct file which could be borrowed.
> 
> Yeah, I noticed that too.
>  
> > - We could add one
> 
> The problem there is that this bloats struct file, and that seemed like
> something worth avoiding.

Not a big deal, really.  There's one of these for each presently-open file.
It's not like dentries and inodes, which we cache after userspace has
closed off the file handles.

>  It could easily be done, but I don't know
> why we would before knowing that the global spinlock is a problem. 
> 
> But... it's *already* protected by a global spinlock (the BKL) which is
> (still) more widely used.
> 
> > - We could borrow file->f_path.dentry->d_inode->i_lock
> 
> I didn't think of that one.  Using a lock which is three indirections
> away seems a little obscure; again, I guess we could do that if the
> global spinlock actually turns out to be a problem.
> 
> > - We could convert that field to long and use bitops (sounds nice?)
> 
> I did think of that one.  Reasons not to include growing struct file
> and the fact that there are places which set more than one flag at
> once.  So we'd replace assignments with loops - and we still don't
> solve the fasync() problem.
> 

I don't know what "the fasync() problem" is?

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-23  5:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-15 22:32 [PATCH, RFC] Remove fasync() BKL usage, take 3325 Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-15 22:32 ` Jonathan Corbet
     [not found] ` <20090115153211.663df310-vw3g6Xz/EtPk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-22 14:51   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-22 14:51     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]     ` <20090122065104.2787df2d.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-22 16:09       ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-22 16:09         ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]         ` <20090122160935.GI15750-qrUzlfsMFqo/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-23  5:21           ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-23  5:21             ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-22 20:32       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-22 20:32         ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]         ` <20090122203248.GA20159-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-23  4:56           ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-23  4:56             ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]             ` <20090123045646.GK15750-qrUzlfsMFqo/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-28  0:53               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-28  0:53                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-28  0:55               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-28  0:55                 ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]                 ` <20090127165504.53ed7a2d.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-28  3:14                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-28  3:14                     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                     ` <20090128031439.GA11025-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-28  3:57                       ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-28  3:57                         ` Jonathan Corbet
     [not found]                         ` <20090127205739.1384343f-vw3g6Xz/EtPk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-28  4:23                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-28  4:23                             ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                             ` <20090128042337.GA15060-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-28 14:13                               ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-28 14:13                                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-28 17:36                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-28 17:36                         ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                         ` <20090128173618.GA3174-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-28 17:44                           ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-28 17:44                             ` Jonathan Corbet
     [not found]                             ` <20090128104414.09aee3f9-vw3g6Xz/EtPk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-28 17:55                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-28 17:55                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                 ` <20090128175541.GA7074-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-28 18:13                                   ` Matt Mackall
2009-01-28 18:13                                     ` Matt Mackall
2009-01-28 21:05                                     ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-28 21:05                                       ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-28 18:14                           ` David Daney
2009-01-28 18:14                             ` David Daney
2009-01-29 14:37                           ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-29 14:37                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-23  5:15       ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-23  5:15         ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-23  5:31         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-01-23  5:31           ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]           ` <20090122213105.74142908.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-23  5:45             ` Matt Mackall
2009-01-23  5:45               ` Matt Mackall
2009-01-23  6:15               ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-23  6:15                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-23 10:45                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2009-01-23  5:54             ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-23  5:54               ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]               ` <20090123055404.GL15750-qrUzlfsMFqo/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-23  6:01                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-23  6:01                   ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-01-23  6:57                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-23  6:57                   ` Andrew Morton

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