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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	Manish Katiyar <mkatiyar@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:19:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090216141917.GA8981@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4999717F.7090205@s5r6.in-berlin.de>


* Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de> wrote:

> Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de> wrote:
> >> Furthermore, the changelog is bad (non-exiting in fact).
> >> 
> >> The fact that the issues where discovered using checkpatch is absolutely
> >> uninteresting.  The changelog should describe /what/ is fixed, [...]
> > 
> > The commit log definitely needs enhancements but it's not uninteresting 
> > at all what tools were used to arrive to a change. [...] if a
> > good and acceptable commit results out of a tool's usage then that tool 
> > needs to be advertised some more.)
> 
> Fine, then the author could mention it below the --- delimitor in the 
> patch posting.  The changelog however, as annotation of the source 
> history, is not a billboard.  We also don't describe for example that 
> a nice cup of hot Earl Grey or whatever was vital to the creation of a 
> patch.

Well there's a difference between a nice cup of tea (that really has no 
direct connection to kernel development) and a tool that is in the Linux 
kernel specifically for the purpose of helping keep code clean, and that 
was used to come up with a cleanup.

We routinely mention Sparse, lockdep, Coverity, Coccinelle, kmemleak, 
ftrace, kmemcheck and other tools as well when it motives to fix a bug 
or uncleanliness. We routinely mention checkpatch as well when it 
catches an uncleanliness in a submitted patch. It is absolutely fine to 
mention checkpatch when it catches uncleanliness in code that already 
got merged. I dont understand your point.

	Ingo

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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	Manish Katiyar <mkatiyar@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/kallsyms.c
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:19:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090216141917.GA8981@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4999717F.7090205@s5r6.in-berlin.de>


* Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de> wrote:

> Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de> wrote:
> >> Furthermore, the changelog is bad (non-exiting in fact).
> >> 
> >> The fact that the issues where discovered using checkpatch is absolutely
> >> uninteresting.  The changelog should describe /what/ is fixed, [...]
> > 
> > The commit log definitely needs enhancements but it's not uninteresting 
> > at all what tools were used to arrive to a change. [...] if a
> > good and acceptable commit results out of a tool's usage then that tool 
> > needs to be advertised some more.)
> 
> Fine, then the author could mention it below the --- delimitor in the 
> patch posting.  The changelog however, as annotation of the source 
> history, is not a billboard.  We also don't describe for example that 
> a nice cup of hot Earl Grey or whatever was vital to the creation of a 
> patch.

Well there's a difference between a nice cup of tea (that really has no 
direct connection to kernel development) and a tool that is in the Linux 
kernel specifically for the purpose of helping keep code clean, and that 
was used to come up with a cleanup.

We routinely mention Sparse, lockdep, Coverity, Coccinelle, kmemleak, 
ftrace, kmemcheck and other tools as well when it motives to fix a bug 
or uncleanliness. We routinely mention checkpatch as well when it 
catches an uncleanliness in a submitted patch. It is absolutely fine to 
mention checkpatch when it catches uncleanliness in code that already 
got merged. I dont understand your point.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-16 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-15 18:34 [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/kallsyms.c Manish Katiyar
2009-02-15 18:46 ` Manish Katiyar
2009-02-15 18:47 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-02-15 18:47   ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-02-15 18:47   ` Manish Katiyar
2009-02-15 18:59     ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in Manish Katiyar
2009-02-16 13:07   ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/kallsyms.c Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 13:07     ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 13:28     ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 13:28       ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/kallsyms.c Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 14:00       ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 14:00         ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 14:19         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-02-16 14:19           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 15:22           ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 15:22             ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 15:41             ` Manish Katiyar
2009-02-16 15:53               ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in Manish Katiyar
2009-02-16 15:50             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 15:50               ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/kallsyms.c Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 16:13               ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 16:13                 ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 17:12                 ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 17:12                   ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/kallsyms.c Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 18:04                   ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 18:04                     ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 16:13               ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in Al Viro
2009-02-16 16:13                 ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/kallsyms.c Al Viro
2009-02-16 17:11                 ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 17:11                   ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/kallsyms.c Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 14:28       ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in Paolo Ciarrocchi
2009-02-16 14:28         ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/kallsyms.c Paolo Ciarrocchi
2009-02-16 16:17       ` Julia Lawall
2009-02-16 16:17         ` Julia Lawall
2009-02-16 16:35         ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 16:35           ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 17:21           ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 17:21             ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/kallsyms.c Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 17:15         ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in Ingo Molnar
2009-02-16 17:15           ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/kallsyms.c Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-02-15 18:39 [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/utsname_sysctl.c Manish Katiyar
2009-02-15 18:51 ` Manish Katiyar
2009-02-16 13:09 ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 13:09   ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 14:59   ` Manish Katiyar
2009-02-16 15:11     ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in Manish Katiyar
2009-02-16 15:34     ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/utsname_sysctl.c Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 15:34       ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-15 18:50 [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/acct.c Manish Katiyar
2009-02-15 18:50 ` Manish Katiyar
2009-02-16 13:19 ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-16 13:19   ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-15 19:07 [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/signal.c Manish Katiyar
2009-02-15 19:19 ` Manish Katiyar
2009-02-15 20:08 ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in Ingo Molnar
2009-02-15 20:08   ` [PATCH] Remove errors caught by checkpatch.pl in kernel/signal.c Ingo Molnar

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