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From: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	lsm <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New reflink(2) syscall
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:49:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090504174957.GD31249@mail.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1241456379.3023.173.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:59:39PM -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 01:35 +1000, James Morris wrote:
> > What's fundamentally different, though, that the process would only be 
> > able to then modify the data in a subsequent syscall?
> 
> Since the data doesn't flow through the process at all, it can neither
> be leaked nor modified by the process.  Whereas normally the data would
> be copied into the memory of the process (and potentially leaked
> elsewhere) and the process could write any arbitrary data it liked to
> the new file.  As a result, one might be willing to allow reflink(2) in
> situations where one would not be willing to allow a userspace file
> copy.

	Oh, that's a good point.  A process using reflink(2) to make a
snapshot can do the snap but not modify.  That's neat.

Joel

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-04 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <alpine.LRH.2.00.0905041655220.21713@tundra.namei.org>
     [not found] ` <1241443016.3023.51.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2009-05-04 15:35   ` New reflink(2) syscall James Morris
2009-05-04 16:59     ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-04 17:49       ` Joel Becker [this message]
2009-05-05 18:00       ` Joel Becker
2009-05-05 18:41         ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-05 19:15           ` Joel Becker
2009-05-05 19:14             ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-05 19:33               ` Joel Becker
2009-05-05 22:15         ` James Morris
2009-05-05 22:31           ` Joel Becker
2009-05-06 11:23           ` Stephen Smalley
     [not found]   ` <20090504163514.GB31249@mail.oracle.com>
     [not found]     ` <1241458669.3023.203.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2009-05-04 18:08       ` Joel Becker
2009-05-04 19:30         ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-04 21:03           ` Joel Becker
2009-05-04 21:30             ` Joel Becker
2009-05-05 11:44               ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-05 16:46                 ` Joel Becker
2009-05-04 23:13             ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-05 16:47               ` Joel Becker
2009-05-05 16:56                 ` Chris Mason
2009-05-05 17:13                   ` Joel Becker
2009-05-05 17:34                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-05 17:44                       ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-05 17:56                         ` Joel Becker
2009-05-05 18:21                           ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-06  4:27                             ` Casey Schaufler
2009-05-06  4:42                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-06  5:38                                 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-05-06  7:12                                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-05 22:45                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-06  4:08                           ` Casey Schaufler
2009-05-06  4:28                             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-06 11:25                           ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-05 17:36                     ` Chris Mason

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