From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, fengguang.wu@intel.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pavel@ucw.cz, nigel@tuxonice.net,
rientjes@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:16:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090513141647.076b67f0.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200905132255.04681.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Wed, 13 May 2009 22:55:03 +0200
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 May 2009 10:39:25 +0200
> > "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> > >
> > > Rework swsusp_shrink_memory() so that it calls shrink_all_memory()
> > > just once to make some room for the image and then allocates memory
> > > to apply more pressure to the memory management subsystem, if
> > > necessary.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, we don't seem to be able to drop shrink_all_memory()
> > > entirely just yet, because that would lead to huge performance
> > > regressions in some test cases.
> > >
> >
> > Isn't this a somewhat large problem?
>
> Yes, it is. The thing is 8 times slower (15 s vs 2 s) without the
> shrink_all_memory() in at least one test case. 100% reproducible.
erk. Any ideas why? A quick peek at a kernel profile and perhaps
the before-and-after delta in the /proc/vmstat numbers would probably
guide us there.
> > The main point (I thought) was to remove shrink_all_memory(). Instead,
> > we're retaining it and adding even more stuff?
>
> The idea is that afterwards we can drop shrink_all_memory() once the
> performance problem has been resolved. Also, we now allocate memory for the
> image using GFP_KERNEL instead of doing it with GFP_ATOMIC after freezing
> devices. I'd think that's an improvement?
Dunno. GFP_KERNEL might attempt to do writeback/swapout/etc, which
could be embarrassing if the devices are frozen. GFP_NOIO sounds
appropriate.
> > > +{
> > > + unsigned long ratio = (numerator << FRACTION_SHIFT) / denominator;
> > >
> > > -#define SHRINK_BITE 10000
> > > -static inline unsigned long __shrink_memory(long tmp)
> > > + x *= ratio;
> > > + return x >> FRACTION_SHIFT;
> > > +}
> >
> > Strange function. Would it not be simpler/clearer to do it with 64-bit
> > scalars, multiplication and do_div()?
>
> Sure, I can do it this way too. Is it fine to use u64 for this purpose?
I suppose so. All/most of the implementations of do_div() are done as
macros so it's pretty hard to work out what the types are. But
do_div() does expect a u64 rather than `unsigned long long'.
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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, fengguang.wu@intel.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pavel@ucw.cz, nigel@tuxonice.net,
rientjes@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:16:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090513141647.076b67f0.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200905132255.04681.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Wed, 13 May 2009 22:55:03 +0200
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 May 2009 10:39:25 +0200
> > "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> > >
> > > Rework swsusp_shrink_memory() so that it calls shrink_all_memory()
> > > just once to make some room for the image and then allocates memory
> > > to apply more pressure to the memory management subsystem, if
> > > necessary.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, we don't seem to be able to drop shrink_all_memory()
> > > entirely just yet, because that would lead to huge performance
> > > regressions in some test cases.
> > >
> >
> > Isn't this a somewhat large problem?
>
> Yes, it is. The thing is 8 times slower (15 s vs 2 s) without the
> shrink_all_memory() in at least one test case. 100% reproducible.
erk. Any ideas why? A quick peek at a kernel profile and perhaps
the before-and-after delta in the /proc/vmstat numbers would probably
guide us there.
> > The main point (I thought) was to remove shrink_all_memory(). Instead,
> > we're retaining it and adding even more stuff?
>
> The idea is that afterwards we can drop shrink_all_memory() once the
> performance problem has been resolved. Also, we now allocate memory for the
> image using GFP_KERNEL instead of doing it with GFP_ATOMIC after freezing
> devices. I'd think that's an improvement?
Dunno. GFP_KERNEL might attempt to do writeback/swapout/etc, which
could be embarrassing if the devices are frozen. GFP_NOIO sounds
appropriate.
> > > +{
> > > + unsigned long ratio = (numerator << FRACTION_SHIFT) / denominator;
> > >
> > > -#define SHRINK_BITE 10000
> > > -static inline unsigned long __shrink_memory(long tmp)
> > > + x *= ratio;
> > > + return x >> FRACTION_SHIFT;
> > > +}
> >
> > Strange function. Would it not be simpler/clearer to do it with 64-bit
> > scalars, multiplication and do_div()?
>
> Sure, I can do it this way too. Is it fine to use u64 for this purpose?
I suppose so. All/most of the implementations of do_div() are done as
macros so it's pretty hard to work out what the types are. But
do_div() does expect a u64 rather than `unsigned long long'.
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2009-05-06 22:40 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] PM/Hibernate: Rework memory shrinking Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] PM/Freezer: Disable OOM killer when tasks are frozen Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 23:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 12:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 12:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 23:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 0:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] PM/Freezer: Disable OOM killer whentasks " Matt Helsley
2009-05-07 0:36 ` [linux-pm] " Matt Helsley
2009-05-07 12:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 12:09 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] PM/Freezer: Disable OOM killer when tasks " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] PM/Suspend: Do not shrink memory before suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 23:01 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 23:01 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 22:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] PM/Hibernate: Move memory shrinking to snapshot.c (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 23:27 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 12:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 20:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 20:53 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 20:53 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 20:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 20:51 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 20:51 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 12:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 23:27 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 22:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] PM/Hibernate: Do not release preallocated memory unnecessarily Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/5] PM/Hibernate: Rework memory shrinking (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Introduce __GFP_NO_OOM_KILL Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 22:24 ` [RFC][PATCH] PM/Freezer: Disable OOM killer when tasks are frozen (was: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Introduce __GFP_NO_OOM_KILL) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 22:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 22:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Introduce __GFP_NO_OOM_KILL Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] PM/Suspend: Do not shrink memory before suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 8:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-08 8:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-08 8:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-07 21:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] PM/Hibernate: Move memory shrinking to snapshot.c (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 8:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-08 8:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-08 8:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-07 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:53 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] PM/Hibernate: Do not release preallocated memory unnecessarily Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework memory shrinking (rev. 3) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/6] mm: Introduce __GFP_NO_OOM_KILL Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-11 20:12 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-11 20:12 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-11 20:12 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-11 22:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-11 22:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-11 22:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-11 22:33 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-11 22:33 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-11 23:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-11 23:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-11 23:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-11 22:33 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-10 13:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/6] PM/Suspend: Do not shrink memory before suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/6] PM/Hibernate: Move memory shrinking to snapshot.c (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:53 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:57 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/6] PM/Hibernate: Do not release preallocated memory unnecessarily Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 19:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 19:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 19:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 14:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/6] PM/Hibernate: Estimate hard core working set size Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 14:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 19:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 19:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 19:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 14:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:32 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework memory shrinking (rev. 4) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:34 ` [PATCH 1/6] PM/Suspend: Do not shrink memory before suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:35 ` [PATCH 2/6] PM/Hibernate: Move memory shrinking to snapshot.c (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:37 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm, PM/Freezer: Disable OOM killer when tasks are frozen Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 9:19 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 9:19 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 9:19 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 22:35 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-13 22:35 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-13 22:47 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 22:47 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 22:47 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 23:01 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-13 23:01 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-13 23:01 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-13 22:35 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-13 8:39 ` [PATCH 4/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 19:34 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 19:34 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 21:16 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-05-13 21:16 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 21:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 21:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 9:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 9:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 9:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 17:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 17:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 17:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 13:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 13:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 13:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 21:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 21:16 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-14 18:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 18:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 18:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 19:34 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 8:40 ` [PATCH 5/6] PM/Hibernate: Do not release preallocated memory unnecessarily (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 11:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 11:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 17:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 17:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 13:11 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 13:11 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 14:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 14:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 14:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 13:11 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 17:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 11:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 8:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/6] PM/Hibernate: Do not try to allocate too much memory too hard Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 11:14 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 11:14 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 17:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 17:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 17:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 13:14 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 13:14 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 13:14 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 14:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 14:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 14:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 11:14 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-17 12:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 12:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 12:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 12:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 12:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 12:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 14:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 14:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 16:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 16:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-18 8:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18 8:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18 8:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 16:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-18 8:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18 8:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18 17:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-18 17:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-19 0:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19 0:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19 0:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18 17:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-18 8:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 14:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-13 8:32 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework memory shrinking (rev. 4) Rafael J. Wysocki
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