From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, fengguang.wu@intel.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nigel@tuxonice.net,
rientjes@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:40:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090514094046.GF6417@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200905132356.39481.rjw@sisk.pl>
> > > > The main point (I thought) was to remove shrink_all_memory(). Instead,
> > > > we're retaining it and adding even more stuff?
> > >
> > > The idea is that afterwards we can drop shrink_all_memory() once the
> > > performance problem has been resolved. Also, we now allocate memory for the
> > > image using GFP_KERNEL instead of doing it with GFP_ATOMIC after freezing
> > > devices. I'd think that's an improvement?
> >
> > Dunno. GFP_KERNEL might attempt to do writeback/swapout/etc, which
> > could be embarrassing if the devices are frozen.
>
> They aren't, because the preallocation is done upfront, so once the OOM killer
> has been taken care of, it's totally safe. :-)
As is GFP_ATOMIC. Except that GFP_KERNEL will cause catastrophic
consequences when accounting goes wrong. (New kernel's idea of what is
on disk will differ from what is _really_ on disk.)
If accounting is right, GFP_ATOMIC and GFP_KERNEL is equivalent.
If accounting is wrong, GFP_ATOMIC will fail with NULL, while
GFP_KERNEL will do something bad.
I'd keep GFP_ATOMIC (or GFP_NOIO or similar).
Pavel
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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, fengguang.wu@intel.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nigel@tuxonice.net,
rientjes@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:40:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090514094046.GF6417@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200905132356.39481.rjw@sisk.pl>
> > > > The main point (I thought) was to remove shrink_all_memory(). Instead,
> > > > we're retaining it and adding even more stuff?
> > >
> > > The idea is that afterwards we can drop shrink_all_memory() once the
> > > performance problem has been resolved. Also, we now allocate memory for the
> > > image using GFP_KERNEL instead of doing it with GFP_ATOMIC after freezing
> > > devices. I'd think that's an improvement?
> >
> > Dunno. GFP_KERNEL might attempt to do writeback/swapout/etc, which
> > could be embarrassing if the devices are frozen.
>
> They aren't, because the preallocation is done upfront, so once the OOM killer
> has been taken care of, it's totally safe. :-)
As is GFP_ATOMIC. Except that GFP_KERNEL will cause catastrophic
consequences when accounting goes wrong. (New kernel's idea of what is
on disk will differ from what is _really_ on disk.)
If accounting is right, GFP_ATOMIC and GFP_KERNEL is equivalent.
If accounting is wrong, GFP_ATOMIC will fail with NULL, while
GFP_KERNEL will do something bad.
I'd keep GFP_ATOMIC (or GFP_NOIO or similar).
Pavel
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2009-05-06 22:40 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] PM/Hibernate: Rework memory shrinking Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] PM/Freezer: Disable OOM killer when tasks are frozen Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 23:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 23:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 12:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 12:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 0:36 ` [linux-pm] [RFC][PATCH 1/5] PM/Freezer: Disable OOM killer whentasks " Matt Helsley
2009-05-07 12:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 12:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 0:36 ` Matt Helsley
2009-05-06 22:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] PM/Suspend: Do not shrink memory before suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 23:01 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 23:01 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 22:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] PM/Hibernate: Move memory shrinking to snapshot.c (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 23:27 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-06 23:27 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 12:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 20:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 20:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 20:53 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 20:53 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 20:51 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 20:51 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-05-07 12:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] PM/Hibernate: Do not release preallocated memory unnecessarily Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-06 22:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/5] PM/Hibernate: Rework memory shrinking (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Introduce __GFP_NO_OOM_KILL Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 22:24 ` [RFC][PATCH] PM/Freezer: Disable OOM killer when tasks are frozen (was: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Introduce __GFP_NO_OOM_KILL) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 22:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 22:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mm: Introduce __GFP_NO_OOM_KILL Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] PM/Suspend: Do not shrink memory before suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 8:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-08 8:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-08 8:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-07 21:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] PM/Hibernate: Move memory shrinking to snapshot.c (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-08 8:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-08 8:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-08 8:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-07 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:53 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] PM/Hibernate: Do not release preallocated memory unnecessarily Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework memory shrinking (rev. 3) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/6] mm: Introduce __GFP_NO_OOM_KILL Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-11 20:12 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-11 20:12 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-11 20:12 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-11 22:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-11 22:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-11 22:33 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-11 22:33 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-11 23:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-11 23:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-11 23:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-11 22:33 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-11 22:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/6] PM/Suspend: Do not shrink memory before suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/6] PM/Hibernate: Move memory shrinking to snapshot.c (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:53 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:57 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/6] PM/Hibernate: Do not release preallocated memory unnecessarily Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 19:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 19:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 19:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 14:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/6] PM/Hibernate: Estimate hard core working set size Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 14:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 19:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 19:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 19:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 14:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:32 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework memory shrinking (rev. 4) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:34 ` [PATCH 1/6] PM/Suspend: Do not shrink memory before suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:35 ` [PATCH 2/6] PM/Hibernate: Move memory shrinking to snapshot.c (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:37 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm, PM/Freezer: Disable OOM killer when tasks are frozen Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 9:19 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 9:19 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 9:19 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 22:35 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-13 22:35 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-13 22:35 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-13 22:47 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 22:47 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 23:01 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-13 23:01 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-13 23:01 ` David Rientjes
2009-05-13 22:47 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 8:39 ` [PATCH 4/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework shrinking of memory Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 19:34 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 19:34 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 21:16 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 21:16 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 21:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 21:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 9:40 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-05-14 9:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 17:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 17:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 13:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 13:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 13:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 17:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 9:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 21:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 21:16 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-14 18:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 18:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 18:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 19:34 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-13 8:40 ` [PATCH 5/6] PM/Hibernate: Do not release preallocated memory unnecessarily (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 11:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 11:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 17:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 17:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 17:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 13:11 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 13:11 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 13:11 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 14:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 14:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 14:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 11:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-13 8:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/6] PM/Hibernate: Do not try to allocate too much memory too hard Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-13 8:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 11:14 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 11:14 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-14 17:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 17:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 17:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 13:14 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 13:14 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 13:14 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-15 14:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 14:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-15 14:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-14 11:14 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-17 12:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 12:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 12:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 12:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 14:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 14:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 14:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 16:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 16:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 16:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-18 8:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18 8:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18 8:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-18 8:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18 8:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18 8:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18 17:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-18 17:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-19 0:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19 0:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19 0:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18 17:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 12:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-17 12:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-13 8:32 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework memory shrinking (rev. 4) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-10 13:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] PM/Hibernate: Rework memory shrinking (rev. 3) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-07 21:48 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/5] PM/Hibernate: Rework memory shrinking (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
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