From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [benchmark] 1% performance overhead of paravirt_ops on native kernels
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:16:18 +0930 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906051416.19311.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906040736350.4880@localhost.localdomain>
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 12:32:14 am Linus Torvalds wrote:
> So I think your minimum and maximum configs should at least _match_ in
> HIGHMEM. Limiting memory to not actually having any (with "mem=880M") will
> avoid the TLB flushing impact of HIGHMEM, which is clearly going to be the
> _bulk_ of the overhead, but HIGHMEM is still going to be noticeable on at
> least some microbenchmarks.
Well, Ingo was ranting because (paraphrase) "no other config option when
*unused* has as much impact as CONFIG_PARAVIRT!!!!!!!!!!".
That was the point of my mail; facts show it's simply untrue.
> The comparison is ugly and pointless.
(Re: SMP)
Distributions don't ship UP kernels any more; this shows what that costs if
you're actually on a UP box. If we really don't care, perhaps we should make
CONFIG_SMP=n an option under EMBEDDED for x86. And we can rip out the complex
patching SMP patching stuff too.
> Something like CONFIG_HIGHMEM* or CONFIG_SMP is not really what I'd ever
> call "optional feature", although I hope to Dog that CONFIG_HIGHMEM can
> some day be considered that some day.
Someone from a distro might know how many deployed machines don't need them.
Kernel hackers tend to have modern machines; same with "enterprise" sites. I
have no idea.
Without those facts, I'll leave further discussion to someone else :)
Thanks,
Rusty.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-05 4:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-14 0:16 Performance overhead of paravirt_ops on native identified Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-14 0:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-14 1:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14 1:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14 8:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-14 8:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-14 14:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14 14:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14 17:36 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-14 17:36 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-14 17:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14 17:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14 8:05 ` [Xen-devel] Performance overhead of paravirt_ops on nativeidentified Jan Beulich
2009-05-14 8:05 ` Jan Beulich
2009-05-14 8:33 ` [Xen-devel] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-14 17:45 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-14 17:45 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-15 8:10 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2009-05-15 18:50 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-18 7:19 ` Jan Beulich
2009-05-18 7:19 ` Jan Beulich
2009-05-20 22:42 ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-20 22:42 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-15 18:18 ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86: Fix performance regression caused by paravirt_ops on native kernels tip-bot for Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-15 18:18 ` tip-bot for Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-21 22:42 ` Performance overhead of paravirt_ops on native identified Chuck Ebbert
2009-05-21 22:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-21 22:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-21 23:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-21 23:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-22 1:26 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-05-22 1:26 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-05-22 3:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-22 3:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-22 4:27 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-22 4:27 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-22 5:59 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-05-22 5:59 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-05-22 16:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-22 16:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-22 22:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-22 22:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-22 22:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-22 22:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-25 9:15 ` [benchmark] 1% performance overhead of paravirt_ops on native kernels Ingo Molnar
2009-05-26 18:42 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-28 6:17 ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 20:57 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-30 10:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-02 14:18 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-02 14:49 ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-06-02 15:03 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-02 15:22 ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-06-02 16:20 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-02 18:13 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-02 18:06 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-02 18:27 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-03 6:33 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-02 19:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-06-02 19:51 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-03 12:38 ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-03 16:09 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <200906041554.37102.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-06-04 15:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-04 21:52 ` Dave McCracken
2009-06-05 7:31 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-05 14:31 ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-06 18:54 ` Anders K. Pedersen
2009-06-05 4:46 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2009-06-05 14:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-07 0:53 ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-08 14:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 9:39 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 11:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-09 12:10 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-09 12:42 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-09 15:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 23:33 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-06-10 1:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-09 15:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 15:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-09 18:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 18:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 22:48 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-09 22:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-09 14:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 14:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-09 15:55 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-09 15:38 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 16:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 16:21 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 16:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 16:45 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 17:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-10 5:53 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-17 9:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-17 9:56 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-10 6:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
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2009-06-04 6:58 Rusty Russell
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