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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Xin, Xiaohui" <xiaohui.xin@intel.com>,
	"Li, Xin" <xin.li@intel.com>,
	"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: Performance overhead of paravirt_ops on native identified
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 15:48:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A15DA4E.2090505@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090521184233.3c3e97ad@dhcp-100-2-144.bos.redhat.com>

Chuck Ebbert wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:16:55 -0700
> Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> wrote:
>
>   
>> Paravirt patching turns all the pvops calls into direct calls, so
>> _spin_lock etc do end up having direct calls.  For example, the compiler
>> generated code for paravirtualized _spin_lock is:
>>
>> <_spin_lock+0>:		mov    %gs:0xb4c8,%rax
>> <_spin_lock+9>:		incl   0xffffffffffffe044(%rax)
>> <_spin_lock+15>:	callq  *0xffffffff805a5b30
>> <_spin_lock+22>:	retq
>>
>> The indirect call will get patched to:
>> <_spin_lock+0>:		mov    %gs:0xb4c8,%rax
>> <_spin_lock+9>:		incl   0xffffffffffffe044(%rax)
>> <_spin_lock+15>:	callq <__ticket_spin_lock>
>> <_spin_lock+20>:	nop; nop		/* or whatever 2-byte nop */
>> <_spin_lock+22>:	retq
>>
>>     
>
> Can't those calls be changed to jumps?
>   

In this specific instance of this example, yes.  But if you start 
enabling various spinlock debug options then there'll be code following 
the call.  It would be hard for the runtime patching machinery to know 
when it would be safe to do the substitution.

    J


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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	"Xin, Xiaohui" <xiaohui.xin@intel.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Li, Xin" <xin.li@intel.com>,
	"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: Performance overhead of paravirt_ops on native identified
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 15:48:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A15DA4E.2090505@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090521184233.3c3e97ad@dhcp-100-2-144.bos.redhat.com>

Chuck Ebbert wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:16:55 -0700
> Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> wrote:
>
>   
>> Paravirt patching turns all the pvops calls into direct calls, so
>> _spin_lock etc do end up having direct calls.  For example, the compiler
>> generated code for paravirtualized _spin_lock is:
>>
>> <_spin_lock+0>:		mov    %gs:0xb4c8,%rax
>> <_spin_lock+9>:		incl   0xffffffffffffe044(%rax)
>> <_spin_lock+15>:	callq  *0xffffffff805a5b30
>> <_spin_lock+22>:	retq
>>
>> The indirect call will get patched to:
>> <_spin_lock+0>:		mov    %gs:0xb4c8,%rax
>> <_spin_lock+9>:		incl   0xffffffffffffe044(%rax)
>> <_spin_lock+15>:	callq <__ticket_spin_lock>
>> <_spin_lock+20>:	nop; nop		/* or whatever 2-byte nop */
>> <_spin_lock+22>:	retq
>>
>>     
>
> Can't those calls be changed to jumps?
>   

In this specific instance of this example, yes.  But if you start 
enabling various spinlock debug options then there'll be code following 
the call.  It would be hard for the runtime patching machinery to know 
when it would be safe to do the substitution.

    J

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-21 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-14  0:16 Performance overhead of paravirt_ops on native identified Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-14  0:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-14  1:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14  1:10   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14  8:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-14  8:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-14 14:05     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14 14:05       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14 17:36   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-14 17:36     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-14 17:50     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14 17:50       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14  8:05 ` [Xen-devel] Performance overhead of paravirt_ops on nativeidentified Jan Beulich
2009-05-14  8:05   ` Jan Beulich
2009-05-14  8:33   ` [Xen-devel] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-14 17:45   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-14 17:45     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-15  8:10     ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2009-05-15 18:50       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-18  7:19         ` Jan Beulich
2009-05-18  7:19           ` Jan Beulich
2009-05-20 22:42           ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-20 22:42             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-15 18:18 ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86: Fix performance regression caused by paravirt_ops on native kernels tip-bot for Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-15 18:18   ` tip-bot for Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-21 22:42 ` Performance overhead of paravirt_ops on native identified Chuck Ebbert
2009-05-21 22:48   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2009-05-21 22:48     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-21 23:10     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-21 23:10       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-22  1:26     ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-05-22  1:26       ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-05-22  3:39       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-22  3:39         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-22  4:27       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-22  4:27         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-22  5:59         ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-05-22  5:59           ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-05-22 16:33           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-22 16:33             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-22 22:44             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-22 22:44               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-22 22:47               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-22 22:47                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-25  9:15 ` [benchmark] 1% performance overhead of paravirt_ops on native kernels Ingo Molnar
2009-05-26 18:42   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-28  6:17     ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 20:57       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-30 10:23       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-02 14:18         ` Chris Mason
2009-06-02 14:49           ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-06-02 15:03             ` Chris Mason
2009-06-02 15:22               ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-06-02 16:20                 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-02 18:13                   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-02 18:06               ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-02 18:27                 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-03  6:33             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-06-02 19:14           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-06-02 19:51             ` Chris Mason
2009-06-03 12:38         ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-03 16:09           ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]             ` <200906041554.37102.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-06-04 15:02               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-04 21:52                 ` Dave McCracken
2009-06-05  7:31                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-05 14:31                     ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-06 18:54                   ` Anders K. Pedersen
2009-06-05  4:46                 ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-05 14:54                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-07  0:53                     ` Rusty Russell
2009-06-08 14:53                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09  9:39                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 11:17                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-09 12:10                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:25                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-09 12:42                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:56                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-09 15:18                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 23:33                         ` Paul Mackerras
2009-06-10  1:26                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-09 15:07                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 15:09                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-09 18:06                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 18:07                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 22:48                           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-09 22:54                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-09 14:54                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 14:57                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-09 15:55                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-09 15:38                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 16:00                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 16:21                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 16:26                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-09 16:45                             ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 17:08                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-10  5:53                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-17  9:40                                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-17  9:56                                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-10  6:29                             ` Peter Zijlstra

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