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From: Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org>
To: Neil McGovern <neilm@debian.org>
Cc: HPPA porters <debian-hppa@lists.debian.org>,
	admin@debian-ports.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: HPPA and Squeeze
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 12:36:01 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090606183600.GA425@lackof.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090602140734.GC26721@mx0.halon.org.uk>

+linux-parisc (hppa kernel, compiler and !debian tech forum)

Neil,
thanks for the summary. I know this is an unpleasant business in general.

On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 03:07:35PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> As mentioned previously[0], the release team haven't been happy with the
> state of the HPPA port in Debian. After the release team meeting[1], it
> has been decided that unfortunatly HPPA will not be supported for
> Squeeze. This was after careful consideration, and wasn't an easy
> decision.
> 
> This means that ftpmasters will be asked to remove HPPA from testing and
> unstable from the 30th June. It is suggested that HPPA porters may wish
> to consider using debian-ports.org if they wish to continue with the
> port.
> 
> Regards,
> Neil McGovern
> 
> [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/04/msg00299.html

Carlos O'Donnell asked some questions in response to [0] and I never
saw any response.  Can an attendee of the above meeting please reply
this email from Carlos?
    http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/04/msg00303.html

I also never got a response to my offer here:
    http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/04/msg00339.html


And my response again to this question posted in [0]:
> * The machines that host the buildds still seem to have a very
> unreliable kernel. Is there any update on this?

Quite a few serious hppa specific bugs have been fixed upstream over
the past 6 months. This is worth revisiting.

Is upstream stable enough for a buildd?  I don't know since I'm not aware
of any attempts to run a buildd with those kernels.

Is the answer to that question still germane?
If so, I'm willing to setup a local buildd and try it. But I will need
more time and some commitment that if it works, hppa remain in testing
release (that's all I personally care about - I don't care about "stable"
releases.)


> [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2009/05/msg00080.html

Can we have the minutes for this meeting?

Also, I'd like to ask HPPA debs be kept in "testing" staging area,
just never promoted when the release is cut.  This will let people
continue using HPPA without having to suffer with the !hppa breakage
that lives in unstable.

thanks,
grant

       reply	other threads:[~2009-06-06 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20090602140734.GC26721@mx0.halon.org.uk>
2009-06-06 18:36 ` Grant Grundler [this message]
2009-06-08 21:26   ` HPPA and Squeeze Neil McGovern
2009-06-08 23:44     ` Thibaut VARENE
2009-06-09  9:29       ` Neil McGovern
2009-06-09 10:38         ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2009-06-09 16:47         ` Aioanei Rares
2009-06-09 17:06           ` John David Anglin
     [not found]       ` <slrnh2scj5.720.nospam@sshway.ssh.pusling.com>
2009-06-09 19:11         ` Helge Deller
2009-06-17  2:37           ` John David Anglin
2009-06-15 16:26     ` Grant Grundler
2009-06-15 17:32       ` Helge Deller
2009-06-12  6:49   ` Luk Claes
2009-06-12  7:53     ` Bart Schelstraete
2009-06-12  7:55       ` Bart Schelstraete
2009-06-12 14:16         ` James Bottomley
2009-06-12 15:35           ` dann frazier
2009-06-13 12:19             ` Brian Szymanski
2009-06-14 18:29             ` Thibaut VARENE
2009-06-14 18:39               ` dann frazier
2009-06-15 17:31     ` Grant Grundler
2009-06-16  6:25       ` Lucas Nussbaum
2009-06-16 19:08         ` Helge Deller
2009-06-16 19:13           ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-06-17 11:14             ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-06-21 22:55             ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-12 12:30               ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-07-12 14:52                 ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-13 13:30                   ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-06-16 20:50         ` Grant Grundler
2009-06-16 21:35           ` dann frazier
2009-06-17 23:54       ` Matthias Klose
2009-06-18  1:35         ` John David Anglin
2009-06-18  6:33           ` Luk Claes
2009-06-18  9:40             ` Randolph Chung
2009-06-18 18:19               ` Luk Claes
2009-06-18 10:16             ` Thibaut VARENE
2009-06-18 18:16               ` Luk Claes
2009-06-18 15:03             ` John David Anglin
2009-06-18  6:29         ` Luk Claes
2009-06-24 23:32           ` Matthias Klose
2009-06-19  6:05 Luk Claes
2009-06-19 15:15 ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-06-19 15:43   ` Philipp Kern
2009-06-20 22:44     ` John David Anglin
2009-07-03 18:57     ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-07-03 19:28       ` Philipp Kern
2009-07-03 22:15         ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-07-04 23:34           ` John David Anglin
2009-07-05  9:06             ` Helge Deller
2009-07-05 13:44               ` Jurij Smakov
2009-07-05 14:01                 ` Philipp Kern
2009-07-05 17:19               ` John David Anglin
2009-07-05 18:01                 ` John David Anglin
2009-07-05 23:07                 ` John David Anglin
2009-07-06  0:03                   ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-06  0:17                     ` John David Anglin
2009-07-06  1:06                       ` James Bottomley
2009-07-06  1:43                         ` John David Anglin
2009-07-06  5:38                           ` Randolph Chung
2009-07-06 13:28                             ` John David Anglin
2009-07-06 16:36                               ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-06 18:45                                 ` John David Anglin
2009-07-06 21:43                                   ` Kyle McMartin
2009-07-07  1:47                                     ` John David Anglin
2009-07-07  2:43                                       ` dann frazier
2009-07-07 13:57                                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-07 14:11                                       ` James Bottomley
2009-07-07 16:21                                         ` John David Anglin
2009-07-07 20:42                                           ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-07 22:07                                             ` John David Anglin
2009-07-07 22:17                                               ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-07 22:39                                                 ` John David Anglin
2009-07-07 14:22                                     ` James Bottomley
2009-07-05 23:59                 ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-06  2:25                   ` John David Anglin
2009-07-04 19:52       ` John David Anglin
2009-07-04 21:03         ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-07-04 23:30           ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-06-20 14:33   ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-06-20 16:02     ` John David Anglin
2009-06-20 17:48       ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-06-20 21:57         ` Grant Grundler
2009-06-20 22:25           ` John David Anglin
2009-06-20 23:07             ` Grant Grundler
2009-06-20 23:25               ` John David Anglin
2009-06-20 14:39   ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-06-20 14:51     ` Thibaut VARENE

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