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From: Randolph Chung <randolph@tausq.org>
To: Luk Claes <luk@debian.org>
Cc: John David Anglin <dave@hiauly1.hia.nrc.ca>,
	debian-hppa@lists.debian.org, debian-release@lists.debian.org,
	linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: HPPA and Squeeze
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:40:28 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A3A0B8C.9070104@tausq.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A39DFAA.30803@debian.org>

Luk,
> There is no desire to trim working architectures.
>
> It's very easy to tell there is nothing wrong when you don't have to
> deal with unreliable build daemons, endless discussions but no visible
> progress (except for java support) and complaints from DSA, package
> maintainers and others.
>   
If you looked at https://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph-big.png  I think 
it is obvious hppa is not *that* broken. hppa is >95% built. That is not 
that bad. Of course, it can be better, but if you looked at this with a 
historical perspective the port is really in a pretty good shape.

If you looked at the status of the toolchain posted to the 
gcc-testresults page: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-testresults/2009-06/  
you can see that hppa is one of the better architectures out there. Our 
results are on par with (if not better than) other supported architectures.

IMHO hppa contributed a lot to getting Debian packages (and upstream) 
properly fixed to build properly across many other architectures and 
making it easier for new architectures to get incorporated into Debian. 
It's unfortunate that parisc is no longer a commercially popular 
platform, but why should not affect whether Debian supports it?

It's obvious from the recent exchange that there are still people on the 
hppa team (and other Debian maintainers) that are willing to work on 
this architecture to make things better. Also by many metrics it is 
still very much a working architecture. It's really a shame that 
Debian's considering dropping support for HPPA in Squeeze. Please 
reconsider.

randolph

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-18  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20090602140734.GC26721@mx0.halon.org.uk>
2009-06-06 18:36 ` HPPA and Squeeze Grant Grundler
2009-06-08 21:26   ` Neil McGovern
2009-06-08 23:44     ` Thibaut VARENE
2009-06-09  9:29       ` Neil McGovern
2009-06-09 10:38         ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2009-06-09 16:47         ` Aioanei Rares
2009-06-09 17:06           ` John David Anglin
     [not found]       ` <slrnh2scj5.720.nospam@sshway.ssh.pusling.com>
2009-06-09 19:11         ` Helge Deller
2009-06-17  2:37           ` John David Anglin
2009-06-15 16:26     ` Grant Grundler
2009-06-15 17:32       ` Helge Deller
2009-06-12  6:49   ` Luk Claes
2009-06-12  7:53     ` Bart Schelstraete
2009-06-12  7:55       ` Bart Schelstraete
2009-06-12 14:16         ` James Bottomley
2009-06-12 15:35           ` dann frazier
2009-06-13 12:19             ` Brian Szymanski
2009-06-14 18:29             ` Thibaut VARENE
2009-06-14 18:39               ` dann frazier
2009-06-15 17:31     ` Grant Grundler
2009-06-16  6:25       ` Lucas Nussbaum
2009-06-16 19:08         ` Helge Deller
2009-06-16 19:13           ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-06-17 11:14             ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-06-21 22:55             ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-12 12:30               ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-07-12 14:52                 ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-13 13:30                   ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-06-16 20:50         ` Grant Grundler
2009-06-16 21:35           ` dann frazier
2009-06-17 23:54       ` Matthias Klose
2009-06-18  1:35         ` John David Anglin
2009-06-18  6:33           ` Luk Claes
2009-06-18  9:40             ` Randolph Chung [this message]
2009-06-18 18:19               ` Luk Claes
2009-06-18 10:16             ` Thibaut VARENE
2009-06-18 18:16               ` Luk Claes
2009-06-18 15:03             ` John David Anglin
2009-06-18  6:29         ` Luk Claes
2009-06-24 23:32           ` Matthias Klose
2009-06-19  6:05 Luk Claes
2009-06-19 15:15 ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-06-19 15:43   ` Philipp Kern
2009-06-20 22:44     ` John David Anglin
2009-07-03 18:57     ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-07-03 19:28       ` Philipp Kern
2009-07-03 22:15         ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-07-04 23:34           ` John David Anglin
2009-07-05  9:06             ` Helge Deller
2009-07-05 13:44               ` Jurij Smakov
2009-07-05 14:01                 ` Philipp Kern
2009-07-05 17:19               ` John David Anglin
2009-07-05 18:01                 ` John David Anglin
2009-07-05 23:07                 ` John David Anglin
2009-07-06  0:03                   ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-06  0:17                     ` John David Anglin
2009-07-06  1:06                       ` James Bottomley
2009-07-06  1:43                         ` John David Anglin
2009-07-06  5:38                           ` Randolph Chung
2009-07-06 13:28                             ` John David Anglin
2009-07-06 16:36                               ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-06 18:45                                 ` John David Anglin
2009-07-06 21:43                                   ` Kyle McMartin
2009-07-07  1:47                                     ` John David Anglin
2009-07-07  2:43                                       ` dann frazier
2009-07-07 13:57                                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-07 14:11                                       ` James Bottomley
2009-07-07 16:21                                         ` John David Anglin
2009-07-07 20:42                                           ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-07 22:07                                             ` John David Anglin
2009-07-07 22:17                                               ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-07 22:39                                                 ` John David Anglin
2009-07-07 14:22                                     ` James Bottomley
2009-07-05 23:59                 ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-06  2:25                   ` John David Anglin
2009-07-04 19:52       ` John David Anglin
2009-07-04 21:03         ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-07-04 23:30           ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-06-20 14:33   ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-06-20 16:02     ` John David Anglin
2009-06-20 17:48       ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-06-20 21:57         ` Grant Grundler
2009-06-20 22:25           ` John David Anglin
2009-06-20 23:07             ` Grant Grundler
2009-06-20 23:25               ` John David Anglin
2009-06-20 14:39   ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-06-20 14:51     ` Thibaut VARENE

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