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From: Luk Claes <luk@debian.org>
To: HPPA porters <debian-hppa@lists.debian.org>
Cc: Debian Release <debian-release@lists.debian.org>,
	linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: HPPA and Squeeze
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:29:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A39DEB6.2080803@debian.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A39823C.8070104@debian.org>

Matthias Klose wrote:
> Grant Grundler schrieb:
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 08:49:26AM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
>>> Grant Grundler wrote:

>>>> On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 03:07:35PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:

>>>>     http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/04/msg00303.html
>>> Note that it's wrong to assume we will come with the answers.
>> I was expecting a summary of specific issues from an organization
>> that claims to operate transperently.  The hand waving is easy. But
>> doesn't resolve problems and doesn't meet my expectation of an "open"
>> organization that I've donated money, time, and materials to.
> 
> +1. dropping hppa as a release architecture was not communicated by the release
> team at all.  I did spend some time to get gcj / default-jdk working on hppa,
> and some money (buying a new disk for a hppa machine) to help this port.  The
> time and the money could have spent better, if d-r would have better
> communicated about their intent.

There are issues with the hppa port where the release team considered
dropping it since 2005 communicated to the porter list...

> hppa is not in a good shape, but there are other architectures which are not
> better (sparc, mips*) from a toolchain point of view. what about these?

I'm not aware of current toolchain issues on sparc and the issues on
mips* still seem to be manageable, no?

> there are issues pointed out and not addressed like the -dev / -headers packages
>  built as binary independent packages just to save disk space, which have an
> impact on "slow" architectures, and which are not addressed by the release team.
> would the release team mind addressing these real issues, or should we drop
> "slow" architectures as well?

Well, this Packages issue is clearly a responsability from the FTP Team
and the Release Team would indeed be very happy to have that resolved.

Cheers

Luk

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-18  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20090602140734.GC26721@mx0.halon.org.uk>
2009-06-06 18:36 ` HPPA and Squeeze Grant Grundler
2009-06-08 21:26   ` Neil McGovern
2009-06-08 23:44     ` Thibaut VARENE
2009-06-09  9:29       ` Neil McGovern
2009-06-09 10:38         ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2009-06-09 16:47         ` Aioanei Rares
2009-06-09 17:06           ` John David Anglin
     [not found]       ` <slrnh2scj5.720.nospam@sshway.ssh.pusling.com>
2009-06-09 19:11         ` Helge Deller
2009-06-17  2:37           ` John David Anglin
2009-06-15 16:26     ` Grant Grundler
2009-06-15 17:32       ` Helge Deller
2009-06-12  6:49   ` Luk Claes
2009-06-12  7:53     ` Bart Schelstraete
2009-06-12  7:55       ` Bart Schelstraete
2009-06-12 14:16         ` James Bottomley
2009-06-12 15:35           ` dann frazier
2009-06-13 12:19             ` Brian Szymanski
2009-06-14 18:29             ` Thibaut VARENE
2009-06-14 18:39               ` dann frazier
2009-06-15 17:31     ` Grant Grundler
2009-06-16  6:25       ` Lucas Nussbaum
2009-06-16 19:08         ` Helge Deller
2009-06-16 19:13           ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-06-17 11:14             ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-06-21 22:55             ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-12 12:30               ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-07-12 14:52                 ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-13 13:30                   ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-06-16 20:50         ` Grant Grundler
2009-06-16 21:35           ` dann frazier
2009-06-17 23:54       ` Matthias Klose
2009-06-18  1:35         ` John David Anglin
2009-06-18  6:33           ` Luk Claes
2009-06-18  9:40             ` Randolph Chung
2009-06-18 18:19               ` Luk Claes
2009-06-18 10:16             ` Thibaut VARENE
2009-06-18 18:16               ` Luk Claes
2009-06-18 15:03             ` John David Anglin
2009-06-18  6:29         ` Luk Claes [this message]
2009-06-24 23:32           ` Matthias Klose
2009-06-19  6:05 Luk Claes
2009-06-19 15:15 ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-06-19 15:43   ` Philipp Kern
2009-06-20 22:44     ` John David Anglin
2009-07-03 18:57     ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-07-03 19:28       ` Philipp Kern
2009-07-03 22:15         ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-07-04 23:34           ` John David Anglin
2009-07-05  9:06             ` Helge Deller
2009-07-05 13:44               ` Jurij Smakov
2009-07-05 14:01                 ` Philipp Kern
2009-07-05 17:19               ` John David Anglin
2009-07-05 18:01                 ` John David Anglin
2009-07-05 23:07                 ` John David Anglin
2009-07-06  0:03                   ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-06  0:17                     ` John David Anglin
2009-07-06  1:06                       ` James Bottomley
2009-07-06  1:43                         ` John David Anglin
2009-07-06  5:38                           ` Randolph Chung
2009-07-06 13:28                             ` John David Anglin
2009-07-06 16:36                               ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-06 18:45                                 ` John David Anglin
2009-07-06 21:43                                   ` Kyle McMartin
2009-07-07  1:47                                     ` John David Anglin
2009-07-07  2:43                                       ` dann frazier
2009-07-07 13:57                                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-07 14:11                                       ` James Bottomley
2009-07-07 16:21                                         ` John David Anglin
2009-07-07 20:42                                           ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-07 22:07                                             ` John David Anglin
2009-07-07 22:17                                               ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-07 22:39                                                 ` John David Anglin
2009-07-07 14:22                                     ` James Bottomley
2009-07-05 23:59                 ` Carlos O'Donell
2009-07-06  2:25                   ` John David Anglin
2009-07-04 19:52       ` John David Anglin
2009-07-04 21:03         ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-07-04 23:30           ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-06-20 14:33   ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-06-20 16:02     ` John David Anglin
2009-06-20 17:48       ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-06-20 21:57         ` Grant Grundler
2009-06-20 22:25           ` John David Anglin
2009-06-20 23:07             ` Grant Grundler
2009-06-20 23:25               ` John David Anglin
2009-06-20 14:39   ` Kurt Roeckx
2009-06-20 14:51     ` Thibaut VARENE

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