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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"riel@redhat.com" <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"tytso@mit.edu" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"elladan@eskimo.com" <elladan@eskimo.com>,
	"npiggin@suse.de" <npiggin@suse.de>,
	"Barnes, Jesse" <jesse.barnes@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Found the commit that causes the OOMs
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:43:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090702124351.GA7488@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090702164106.76db077b.minchan.kim@barrios-desktop>

On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 03:41:06PM +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:57:47 +0100
> David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > David. Doesn't it happen OOM if you revert my patch, still?
> > 
> > It does happen, and indeed happens in v2.6.30, but requires two adjacent runs
> > of msgctl11 to trigger, rather than usually triggering on the first run.  If
> > you interpolate the rest of LTP between the iterations, it doesn't seem to
> > happen at all on v2.6.30.  My guess is that with the rest of LTP interpolated,
> > there's either enough time for some cleanup or something triggers a cleanup
> > (the swapfile tests perhaps?).
> > 
> > > Befor I go to the trip, I made debugging patch in a hurry.  Mel and I
> > > suspect to put the wrong page in lru list.
> > > 
> > > This patch's goal is that print page's detail on active anon lru when it
> > > happen OOM.  Maybe you could expand your log buffer size.
> > 
> > Do you mean to expand the dmesg buffer?  That's probably unnecessary: I capture
> > the kernel log over a serial port into a file on another machine.
> > 
> > > Could you show me the information with OOM, please ?
> > 
> > Attached.  It's compressed as there was rather a lot.
> > 
> > David
> > ---
> 
> Hi, David. 
> 
> Sorry for late response.
> 
> I looked over your captured data when I got home but I didn't find any problem
> in lru page moving scheme.
> As Wu, Kosaki and Rik discussed, I think this issue is also related to process fork bomb. 

Yes, me think so.

> When I tested msgctl11 in my machine with 2.6.31-rc1, I found that:

Were you testing the no-swap case?

> 2.6.31-rc1		
> real	0m38.628s
> user	0m10.589s
> sys	1m12.613s
> 
> vmstat
> 
> allocstall 3196
> 
> 2.6.31-rc1-revert-mypatch
> 
> real	1m17.396s
> user	0m11.193s
> sys	4m3.803s 

It's interesting that (sys > real).

> vmstat
> 
> allocstall 584
> 
> Sometimes I got OOM, sometime not in with 2.6.31-rc1.
> 
> Anyway, the current kernel's test took a rather short time than my reverted patch. 
> In addition, the current kernel has small allocstall(direct reclaim)
> 
> As you know, my patch was just to remove calling shrink_active_list in case of no swap.
> shrink_active_list function is a big cost function.
> The old shrink_active_list could throttle to fork processes by chance. 
> But by removing that function with my patch, we have a high
> probability to make process fork bomb. Wu, KOSAKI and Rik, does it
> make sense? 

Maybe, but I'm not sure on how to explain the time/vmstat numbers :(

> So I think you were just lucky with a unnecessary routine.
> Anyway, AFAIK, Rik is making throttling page reclaim. 
> I think it can solve your problem. 

Yes, with good luck :)

Thanks,
Fengguang

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"riel@redhat.com" <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"tytso@mit.edu" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"elladan@eskimo.com" <elladan@eskimo.com>,
	"npiggin@suse.de" <npiggin@suse.de>,
	"Barnes, Jesse" <jesse.barnes@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Found the commit that causes the OOMs
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:43:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090702124351.GA7488@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090702164106.76db077b.minchan.kim@barrios-desktop>

On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 03:41:06PM +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:57:47 +0100
> David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > David. Doesn't it happen OOM if you revert my patch, still?
> > 
> > It does happen, and indeed happens in v2.6.30, but requires two adjacent runs
> > of msgctl11 to trigger, rather than usually triggering on the first run.  If
> > you interpolate the rest of LTP between the iterations, it doesn't seem to
> > happen at all on v2.6.30.  My guess is that with the rest of LTP interpolated,
> > there's either enough time for some cleanup or something triggers a cleanup
> > (the swapfile tests perhaps?).
> > 
> > > Befor I go to the trip, I made debugging patch in a hurry.  Mel and I
> > > suspect to put the wrong page in lru list.
> > > 
> > > This patch's goal is that print page's detail on active anon lru when it
> > > happen OOM.  Maybe you could expand your log buffer size.
> > 
> > Do you mean to expand the dmesg buffer?  That's probably unnecessary: I capture
> > the kernel log over a serial port into a file on another machine.
> > 
> > > Could you show me the information with OOM, please ?
> > 
> > Attached.  It's compressed as there was rather a lot.
> > 
> > David
> > ---
> 
> Hi, David. 
> 
> Sorry for late response.
> 
> I looked over your captured data when I got home but I didn't find any problem
> in lru page moving scheme.
> As Wu, Kosaki and Rik discussed, I think this issue is also related to process fork bomb. 

Yes, me think so.

> When I tested msgctl11 in my machine with 2.6.31-rc1, I found that:

Were you testing the no-swap case?

> 2.6.31-rc1		
> real	0m38.628s
> user	0m10.589s
> sys	1m12.613s
> 
> vmstat
> 
> allocstall 3196
> 
> 2.6.31-rc1-revert-mypatch
> 
> real	1m17.396s
> user	0m11.193s
> sys	4m3.803s 

It's interesting that (sys > real).

> vmstat
> 
> allocstall 584
> 
> Sometimes I got OOM, sometime not in with 2.6.31-rc1.
> 
> Anyway, the current kernel's test took a rather short time than my reverted patch. 
> In addition, the current kernel has small allocstall(direct reclaim)
> 
> As you know, my patch was just to remove calling shrink_active_list in case of no swap.
> shrink_active_list function is a big cost function.
> The old shrink_active_list could throttle to fork processes by chance. 
> But by removing that function with my patch, we have a high
> probability to make process fork bomb. Wu, KOSAKI and Rik, does it
> make sense? 

Maybe, but I'm not sure on how to explain the time/vmstat numbers :(

> So I think you were just lucky with a unnecessary routine.
> Anyway, AFAIK, Rik is making throttling page reclaim. 
> I think it can solve your problem. 

Yes, with good luck :)

Thanks,
Fengguang

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Thread overview: 184+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-17  2:23 [PATCH 0/3] make mapped executable pages the first class citizen Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17  2:23 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17  2:23 ` [PATCH 1/3] vmscan: report vm_flags in page_referenced() Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17  2:23   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17  2:23 ` [PATCH 2/3] vmscan: make mapped executable pages the first class citizen Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17  2:23   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19  8:59   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19  8:59     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17  2:23 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: merge duplicate code in shrink_active_list() Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17  2:23   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18  9:16   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18  9:16     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19  2:43     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19  2:43       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19 10:18       ` Johannes Weiner
2009-05-19 10:18         ` Johannes Weiner
2009-05-19 10:32         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19 10:32           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-18 14:46 ` [PATCH 0/3] make mapped executable pages the first class citizen David Howells
2009-06-18 14:46   ` David Howells
2009-06-18 14:51   ` David Howells
2009-06-18 14:51     ` David Howells
2009-06-18 16:18   ` David Howells
2009-06-18 16:18     ` David Howells
2009-06-18 16:57     ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-18 16:57       ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-20  4:33       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-20  4:33         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-20  8:24         ` David Howells
2009-06-20  8:24           ` David Howells
2009-06-23 14:43         ` David Howells
2009-06-23 14:43           ` David Howells
2009-06-24  1:43           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-24  1:43             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-24  2:32           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-24  2:32             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-24  2:43             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-24  2:43               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-24  2:49               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-24  2:49                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-27 11:53               ` Johannes Weiner
2009-06-27 11:53                 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-06-27 18:40                 ` David Howells
2009-06-27 18:40                   ` David Howells
2009-06-24 13:07             ` David Howells
2009-06-24 13:07               ` David Howells
2009-06-27  7:12               ` Found the commit that causes the OOMs David Howells
2009-06-27  7:12                 ` David Howells
2009-06-27 12:07                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-27 12:07                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-27 18:58                   ` David Howells
2009-06-27 18:58                     ` David Howells
2009-06-27 12:54                 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-06-27 12:54                   ` Johannes Weiner
2009-06-27 13:50                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-27 13:50                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-27 15:36                     ` Johannes Weiner
2009-06-27 15:36                       ` Johannes Weiner
2009-06-28 16:53                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-28 16:53                         ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-27 15:52                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-27 15:52                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-27 18:35                   ` David Howells
2009-06-27 18:35                     ` David Howells
2009-06-28  7:55                   ` David Howells
2009-06-28  7:55                     ` David Howells
2009-06-28 11:32                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 11:32                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 13:30                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-28 13:30                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-28 13:36                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-28 13:36                         ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-28 14:22                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 14:22                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 15:01                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-28 15:01                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-28 15:10                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 15:10                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 16:50                               ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-28 16:50                                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29  0:17                               ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29  0:17                                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29  7:34                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29  7:34                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 10:10                                   ` David Howells
2009-06-29 10:10                                     ` David Howells
2009-06-29 12:55                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 12:55                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 14:21                                       ` David Howells
2009-06-29 14:21                                         ` David Howells
2009-06-29 15:00                                         ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29 15:00                                           ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29 15:14                                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 15:14                                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 15:54                                             ` David Howells
2009-06-29 15:54                                               ` David Howells
2009-06-29 15:56                                               ` David Woodhouse
2009-06-29 15:56                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2009-06-30 14:05                                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-30 14:05                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-30 15:50                                                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-30 15:50                                                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-01  2:30                                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  2:30                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  1:18                                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01  1:18                                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01  2:13                                                     ` Rik van Riel
2009-07-01  2:13                                                       ` Rik van Riel
2009-07-01  2:16                                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  2:16                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  2:26                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  2:26                                                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  2:51                                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01  2:51                                                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01  2:57                                                           ` Rik van Riel
2009-07-01  2:57                                                             ` Rik van Riel
2009-07-01  4:06                                                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  4:06                                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  4:18                                                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01  4:18                                                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01  4:25                                                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  4:25                                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  4:30                                                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01  4:30                                                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01 11:27                                                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01 11:27                                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-05  9:55                                                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-05  9:55                                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-05 10:38                                                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-05 10:38                                                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-05 10:51                                                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-05 10:51                                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  3:54                                                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  3:54                                                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 15:27                                           ` David Howells
2009-06-29 15:27                                             ` David Howells
2009-06-29 16:07                                           ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-29 16:07                                             ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-30  4:07                                             ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-30  4:07                                               ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-30  9:22                                               ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-30  9:22                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-30  9:30                                                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-30  9:30                                                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-30 14:00                                                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-30 14:00                                                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-30 19:57                                               ` David Howells
2009-06-30 19:57                                                 ` David Howells
2009-07-02  7:41                                                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-02  7:41                                                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-02  7:44                                                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-02  7:44                                                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-02 12:43                                                   ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2009-07-02 12:43                                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-02 14:08                                                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-02 14:08                                                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-28 14:49                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-28 14:49                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-28 15:04                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 15:04                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 16:47                         ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-28 16:47                           ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29  7:48                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-29  7:48                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-29  9:32                             ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29  9:32                               ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29 12:43                             ` David Howells
2009-06-29 12:43                               ` David Howells
2009-06-29 12:59                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 12:59                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 16:57                               ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-29 16:57                                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-29 18:54                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-29 18:54                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-29 19:08                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-29 19:08                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-19  5:27     ` [PATCH 0/3] make mapped executable pages the first class citizen Wu Fengguang
2009-06-19  5:27       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-19  5:24   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-19  5:24     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-19  5:58   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-19  5:58     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-19  8:06     ` David Howells
2009-06-19  8:06       ` David Howells

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