From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>
Cc: Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Justin M. Forbes" <jmforbes@linuxtx.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/12] ksm: fix munlock during exit_mmap deadlock
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:44:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090826194444.GB14722@random.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0908261910530.15622@sister.anvils>
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 08:17:50PM +0100, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> Has anyone looked at why Rawhide's mlockall is not faulting in the
> pages, I wonder if there's a separate bug there?)
I reproduced only with self compiled mmotm kernel with full self
compiled userland with just a mlockall and exit (not rawhide
kernel/userland) so there's certainly no bug in rawhide, or at least
nothing special about it.
> No, not while it's down inside page allocation.
There's a slight difference if it's ksm inside page allocation and not
the task itself for other reasons. See the TIF_MEMDIE check in
page_alloc.c, those won't trigger when it's ksm causing a page
fault. So that's the problem left to tackle to make oom killer fully
happy with KSK unshare.
> But you don't like that approach at all, hmm. It sounds like we'll
> have a fight if I try either that or to reintroduce the ksm_test_exits
;) Well I'd rather have a more unfixable issue if we have to
reintroduce the mm_users check the in page faults.
All is left to address is to teach page_alloc.c that the mm is going
away in a second patch. That might also help when it's aio triggering
gup page allocations or other kernel threads with use_mm just like ksm
and the oom killer selected those "mm" for release.
Having ksm using use_mm before triggering the handle_mm_fault (so
tsk->mm points to the mm of the task) and adding a MMF_MEMDIE to
mm->flags checked by page_alloc would work just fine and should solve
the double task killed... but then I'm unsure.. this is just the first
idea I had.
> in memory.c, once the munlock faulting is eliminated. Well, I'll give
> it more thought: your patch is a lot better than the status quo,
> and should go in for now - thanks.
Ok, agreed!
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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>
Cc: Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Justin M. Forbes" <jmforbes@linuxtx.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/12] ksm: fix munlock during exit_mmap deadlock
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:44:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090826194444.GB14722@random.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0908261910530.15622@sister.anvils>
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 08:17:50PM +0100, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> Has anyone looked at why Rawhide's mlockall is not faulting in the
> pages, I wonder if there's a separate bug there?)
I reproduced only with self compiled mmotm kernel with full self
compiled userland with just a mlockall and exit (not rawhide
kernel/userland) so there's certainly no bug in rawhide, or at least
nothing special about it.
> No, not while it's down inside page allocation.
There's a slight difference if it's ksm inside page allocation and not
the task itself for other reasons. See the TIF_MEMDIE check in
page_alloc.c, those won't trigger when it's ksm causing a page
fault. So that's the problem left to tackle to make oom killer fully
happy with KSK unshare.
> But you don't like that approach at all, hmm. It sounds like we'll
> have a fight if I try either that or to reintroduce the ksm_test_exits
;) Well I'd rather have a more unfixable issue if we have to
reintroduce the mm_users check the in page faults.
All is left to address is to teach page_alloc.c that the mm is going
away in a second patch. That might also help when it's aio triggering
gup page allocations or other kernel threads with use_mm just like ksm
and the oom killer selected those "mm" for release.
Having ksm using use_mm before triggering the handle_mm_fault (so
tsk->mm points to the mm of the task) and adding a MMF_MEMDIE to
mm->flags checked by page_alloc would work just fine and should solve
the double task killed... but then I'm unsure.. this is just the first
idea I had.
> in memory.c, once the munlock faulting is eliminated. Well, I'll give
> it more thought: your patch is a lot better than the status quo,
> and should go in for now - thanks.
Ok, agreed!
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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-03 12:08 [PATCH 0/12] ksm: stats, oom, doc, misc Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:08 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:10 ` [PATCH 1/12] ksm: rename kernel_pages_allocated Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:10 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 14:21 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 14:21 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 16:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-03 16:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-03 12:11 ` [PATCH 2/12] ksm: move pages_sharing updates Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 14:34 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 14:34 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 16:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-03 16:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-03 17:34 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 17:34 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:11 ` [PATCH 3/12] ksm: pages_unshared and pages_volatile Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 14:54 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 14:54 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-04 21:49 ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-04 21:49 ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-05 11:39 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-05 11:39 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-05 15:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-05 15:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-03 12:12 ` [PATCH 4/12] ksm: break cow once unshared Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:12 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 16:00 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 16:00 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:14 ` [PATCH 5/12] ksm: keep quiet while list empty Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:14 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 16:55 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 16:55 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-04 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-04 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-05 11:54 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-05 11:54 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:15 ` [PATCH 6/12] ksm: five little cleanups Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:15 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 12:41 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-04 12:41 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:16 ` [PATCH 7/12] ksm: fix endless loop on oom Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 12:55 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-04 12:55 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:17 ` [PATCH 8/12] ksm: distribute remove_mm_from_lists Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:17 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 13:03 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-04 13:03 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:18 ` [PATCH 9/12] ksm: fix oom deadlock Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:18 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 19:32 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-04 19:32 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-25 14:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-25 14:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-25 15:22 ` [PATCH 13/12] ksm: fix munlock during exit_mmap deadlock Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-25 15:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-25 17:49 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-25 17:49 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-25 18:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-25 18:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-25 18:58 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-25 18:58 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-25 19:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-25 19:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-26 16:18 ` Justin M. Forbes
2009-08-26 16:18 ` Justin M. Forbes
2009-08-26 19:17 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-26 19:17 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-26 19:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2009-08-26 19:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-26 19:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-26 19:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-26 20:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-26 20:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-26 20:54 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-26 20:54 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-26 21:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-26 21:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-26 21:49 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-26 21:49 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-27 19:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-27 19:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-27 19:35 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-27 19:35 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-26 22:00 ` David Rientjes
2009-08-26 22:00 ` David Rientjes
2009-08-26 20:29 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-26 20:29 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-25 17:35 ` [PATCH 9/12] ksm: fix oom deadlock Hugh Dickins
2009-08-25 17:35 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-25 17:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-25 17:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-03 12:19 ` [PATCH 10/12] ksm: sysfs and defaults Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:19 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 19:34 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-04 19:34 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:21 ` [PATCH 11/12] ksm: add some documentation Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:21 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 19:35 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-04 19:35 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:22 ` [PATCH 12/12] ksm: remove VM_MERGEABLE_FLAGS Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:22 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 19:35 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-04 19:35 ` Izik Eidus
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