From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Ryo Tsuruta <ryov@valinux.co.jp>
Cc: riel@redhat.com, guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jmoyer@redhat.com,
dm-devel@redhat.com, jens.axboe@oracle.com, nauman@google.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, agk@redhat.com,
balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Regarding dm-ioband tests
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:49:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090908134915.GB15974@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090908.140516.104049366.ryov@valinux.co.jp>
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 02:05:16PM +0900, Ryo Tsuruta wrote:
> Hi Balbir,
>
> Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > * Ryo Tsuruta <ryov@valinux.co.jp> [2009-09-08 12:01:19]:
> >
> > > I think there are some advantages to dm-ioband. That's why I post
> > > dm-ioband to the mailing list.
> > >
> > > - dm-ioband supports not only proportional weight policy but also rate
> > > limiting policy. Besides, new policies can be added to dm-ioband if
> > > a user wants to control bandwidth by his or her own policy.
> > > - The dm-ioband driver can be replaced without stopping the system by
> > > using device-mapper's facility. It's easy to maintain.
> > > - dm-ioband can use without cgroup. (I remember Vivek said it's not an
> > > advantage.)
> >
> > But don't you need page_cgroup for IO tracking?
>
> It is not necessary when controlling bandwidth on a per partition
> basis or on a IO thread basis like Xen blkback kernel thread.
>
> Here are configration examples.
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/ioband/wiki/dm-ioband/man/examples
>
For partition based control, where a thread or group of threads is doing
IO to a specific parition, why can't you simply create different cgroups
for each partition and move threads in those partitions.
root
/ | \
sda1 sda2 sda3
Above are three groups and move threads doing IO into those groups and
problem is solved. In fact that's what one will do for KVM virtual
machines. Move all the qemu helper threds doing IO for a virtual machine
instance into a specific group and control the IO.
Why do you have to come up with additional complicated grouping mechanism?
Thanks
Vivek
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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Ryo Tsuruta <ryov@valinux.co.jp>
Cc: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, riel@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
jens.axboe@oracle.com, agk@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
nauman@google.com, guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com, jmoyer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Regarding dm-ioband tests
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:49:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090908134915.GB15974@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090908.140516.104049366.ryov@valinux.co.jp>
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 02:05:16PM +0900, Ryo Tsuruta wrote:
> Hi Balbir,
>
> Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > * Ryo Tsuruta <ryov@valinux.co.jp> [2009-09-08 12:01:19]:
> >
> > > I think there are some advantages to dm-ioband. That's why I post
> > > dm-ioband to the mailing list.
> > >
> > > - dm-ioband supports not only proportional weight policy but also rate
> > > limiting policy. Besides, new policies can be added to dm-ioband if
> > > a user wants to control bandwidth by his or her own policy.
> > > - The dm-ioband driver can be replaced without stopping the system by
> > > using device-mapper's facility. It's easy to maintain.
> > > - dm-ioband can use without cgroup. (I remember Vivek said it's not an
> > > advantage.)
> >
> > But don't you need page_cgroup for IO tracking?
>
> It is not necessary when controlling bandwidth on a per partition
> basis or on a IO thread basis like Xen blkback kernel thread.
>
> Here are configration examples.
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/ioband/wiki/dm-ioband/man/examples
>
For partition based control, where a thread or group of threads is doing
IO to a specific parition, why can't you simply create different cgroups
for each partition and move threads in those partitions.
root
/ | \
sda1 sda2 sda3
Above are three groups and move threads doing IO into those groups and
problem is solved. In fact that's what one will do for KVM virtual
machines. Move all the qemu helper threds doing IO for a virtual machine
instance into a specific group and control the IO.
Why do you have to come up with additional complicated grouping mechanism?
Thanks
Vivek
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-08 13:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-01 16:50 Regarding dm-ioband tests Vivek Goyal
2009-09-01 16:50 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-01 17:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-01 17:47 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-03 13:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-03 13:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-04 1:12 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-15 21:40 ` dm-ioband fairness in terms of sectors seems to be killing disk (Was: Re: Regarding dm-ioband tests) Vivek Goyal
2009-09-15 21:40 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-16 11:10 ` dm-ioband fairness in terms of sectors seems to be killing disk Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-16 11:10 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-04 4:02 ` Regarding dm-ioband tests Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-04 4:02 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-04 23:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-04 23:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-07 11:02 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-07 11:02 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-07 13:53 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-07 13:53 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-08 3:01 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-08 3:01 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-08 3:22 ` Balbir Singh
2009-09-08 3:22 ` Balbir Singh
2009-09-08 5:05 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-08 5:05 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-08 13:49 ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2009-09-08 13:49 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-09 5:17 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-09 5:17 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-09 13:34 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-09 13:34 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-08 13:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-08 13:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-08 16:30 ` Nauman Rafique
2009-09-08 16:30 ` Nauman Rafique
2009-09-08 16:47 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-08 16:47 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-08 17:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-08 17:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-15 23:37 ` ioband: Writer starves reader even without competitors (Re: Regarding dm-ioband tests) Vivek Goyal
2009-09-15 23:37 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-16 12:08 ` ioband: Writer starves reader even without competitors Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-08 17:06 ` Regarding dm-ioband tests Dhaval Giani
2009-09-09 6:05 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-09 6:05 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-09 10:51 ` Dhaval Giani
2009-09-10 7:58 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-10 7:58 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-11 9:53 ` Dhaval Giani
2009-09-15 15:12 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-15 15:12 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-15 15:19 ` Balbir Singh
2009-09-15 15:19 ` Balbir Singh
2009-09-15 15:58 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-15 15:58 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-15 16:21 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-15 16:21 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-09 13:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-09 13:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-10 3:06 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-09 10:01 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-09 14:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-09 14:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-10 3:45 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-10 13:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-10 13:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-08 19:24 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-08 19:24 ` Rik van Riel
2009-09-09 0:09 ` Fabio Checconi
2009-09-09 2:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-09 2:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-09 15:41 ` Fabio Checconi
2009-09-09 17:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-09 17:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-09 19:01 ` Fabio Checconi
2009-09-09 9:24 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-09 9:24 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-09-16 4:45 ` ioband: Limited fairness and weak isolation between groups (Was: Re: Regarding dm-ioband tests) Vivek Goyal
2009-09-16 4:45 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-09-18 7:33 ` ioband: Limited fairness and weak isolation between groups Ryo Tsuruta
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