From: Robert Millan <rmh@aybabtu.com>
To: The development of GRUB 2 <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: About firmware facilities
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:07:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090919210740.GA16223@thorin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1252955497.4336.5.camel@mj>
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 04:27 +0930, Brendan Trotter wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Robert Millan <rmh@aybabtu.com> wrote:
> > Anyhow, my priority for GRUB is strong driver-based support. We could recruit
> > someone to develop the framework in next year's GSoC (unless somebody steps
> > in, of course).
>
> Why stop there?
>
> If proprietory ethernet ROMs aren't good enough, then what about
> proprietory SCSI ROMs, and proprietory firmware/BIOS?
As I said, we have to compromise sometimes. But if you aren't satisfied
with the freedom we provide, you're more than welcome to help us go
further. For example, you could help us improve the coreboot port.
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 03:11:37PM -0400, Pavel Roskin wrote:
> >
> > Sigh. I think I understand now - lack of logical thinking leads to
> > lack of rational behavior.
>
> Ad hominem arguments are not welcome here.
Indeed. Brendan, we accept reasonable criticism, but this kind of rethoric
is not welcome here, and is particularly useless if your aim is trying to
persuade us.
--
Robert Millan
The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and
how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we
still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-19 21:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-09 14:07 PXEgrub development on grub2 Lars Nooden
2009-09-09 14:11 ` Felix Zielcke
2009-09-09 14:13 ` Lars Nooden
2009-09-09 15:04 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-09-09 19:40 ` Seth Goldberg
2009-09-10 12:39 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-09-10 13:01 ` Felix Zielcke
2009-09-10 21:17 ` Seth Goldberg
2009-09-11 13:17 ` Robert Millan
2009-09-11 21:07 ` Seth Goldberg
2009-09-12 0:05 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-09-12 0:20 ` Seth Goldberg
2009-09-12 12:54 ` About firmware facilities Robert Millan
2009-09-13 20:54 ` Seth Goldberg
2009-09-14 15:32 ` Robert Millan
2009-09-14 18:57 ` Brendan Trotter
2009-09-14 19:11 ` Pavel Roskin
2009-09-14 20:12 ` Brendan Trotter
2009-09-14 20:47 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-09-14 20:49 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-09-14 23:23 ` Brendan Trotter
2009-09-14 23:43 ` Colin Watson
2009-09-14 23:56 ` Brendan Trotter
2009-09-15 0:28 ` Colin Watson
2009-09-15 1:06 ` Brendan Trotter
2009-09-15 8:59 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-09-15 16:01 ` Brendan Trotter
2009-09-19 14:06 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-09-20 9:04 ` Brendan Trotter
2009-09-20 10:38 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-09-19 21:07 ` Robert Millan [this message]
2009-09-10 18:59 ` PXEgrub development on grub2 Robert Millan
2009-09-17 22:39 ` Joey Korkames
2009-09-18 6:19 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
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