From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, linux-mm@kvack.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv7 3/3] vhost_net: a kernel-level virtio server
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:41:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091104134146.GE8920@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091104133728.GN31511@one.firstfloor.org>
On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 02:37:28PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 03:17:36PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 02:15:33PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 03:08:28PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 01:59:57PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > > > > Fine?
> > > > >
> > > > > I cannot say -- are there paths that could drop the device beforehand?
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean drop the mm reference?
> > >
> > > No the reference to the device, which owns the mm for you.
> >
> > The device is created when file is open and destroyed
> > when file is closed. So I think the fs code handles the
> > reference counting for me: it won't call file cleanup
> > callback while some userspace process has the file open.
> > Right?
>
> Yes.
>
> But the semantics when someone inherits such a fd through exec
> or through file descriptor passing would be surely "interesting"
> You would still do IO on the old VM.
>
> I guess it would be a good way to confuse memory accounting schemes
> or administrators @)
> It would be all saner if this was all a single atomic step.
>
> -Andi
I have this atomic actually. A child process will first thing
do SET_OWNER: this is required before any other operation.
SET_OWNER atomically (under mutex) does two things:
- check that there is no other owner
- get mm and set current process as owner
I hope this addresses your concern?
--
MST
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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, linux-mm@kvack.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv7 3/3] vhost_net: a kernel-level virtio server
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:41:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091104134146.GE8920@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091104133728.GN31511@one.firstfloor.org>
On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 02:37:28PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 03:17:36PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 02:15:33PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 03:08:28PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 01:59:57PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > > > > Fine?
> > > > >
> > > > > I cannot say -- are there paths that could drop the device beforehand?
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean drop the mm reference?
> > >
> > > No the reference to the device, which owns the mm for you.
> >
> > The device is created when file is open and destroyed
> > when file is closed. So I think the fs code handles the
> > reference counting for me: it won't call file cleanup
> > callback while some userspace process has the file open.
> > Right?
>
> Yes.
>
> But the semantics when someone inherits such a fd through exec
> or through file descriptor passing would be surely "interesting"
> You would still do IO on the old VM.
>
> I guess it would be a good way to confuse memory accounting schemes
> or administrators @)
> It would be all saner if this was all a single atomic step.
>
> -Andi
I have this atomic actually. A child process will first thing
do SET_OWNER: this is required before any other operation.
SET_OWNER atomically (under mutex) does two things:
- check that there is no other owner
- get mm and set current process as owner
I hope this addresses your concern?
--
MST
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2009-11-03 17:24 ` [PATCHv7 1/3] tun: export underlying socket Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 17:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 17:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 13:30 ` David Miller
2009-11-04 13:30 ` David Miller
2009-11-04 13:30 ` David Miller
2009-11-03 17:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 17:24 ` [PATCHv7 2/3] mm: export use_mm/unuse_mm to modules Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 17:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 17:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 17:32 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-11-03 17:32 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-11-03 17:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 17:24 ` [PATCHv7 3/3] vhost_net: a kernel-level virtio server Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 17:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 17:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 18:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-03 18:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-03 18:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-03 18:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-03 18:08 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-11-03 18:14 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-11-03 18:14 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-11-03 18:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-03 18:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-03 18:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-03 18:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-03 19:50 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-11-03 19:50 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-11-03 19:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 19:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 19:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 19:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 21:11 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-03 21:11 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-03 21:11 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-03 21:11 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-04 12:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 12:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 12:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 12:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 23:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-03 23:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-03 23:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-03 23:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-04 11:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 11:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 11:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 17:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-04 17:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-04 17:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-04 17:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-04 17:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-04 17:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-04 17:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-04 17:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-11-04 19:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 19:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 19:12 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-11-04 19:12 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-11-04 19:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-06 5:01 ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-06 5:01 ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-06 5:01 ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-06 16:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-06 16:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-08 4:09 ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-08 4:09 ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-08 19:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-08 19:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-08 19:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-08 4:09 ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-06 16:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-11-04 11:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 18:08 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-11-03 19:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 19:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 19:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-03 19:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 11:08 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-04 11:08 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-04 12:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 12:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 12:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 12:59 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-04 12:59 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-04 12:59 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-04 13:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 13:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 13:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 13:15 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-04 13:15 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-04 13:15 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-04 13:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 13:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 13:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 13:37 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-04 13:37 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-04 13:37 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-04 13:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2009-11-04 13:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 16:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 16:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 16:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 13:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 11:08 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-03 17:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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