From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
cl@linux-foundation.org,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>,
minchan.kim@gmail.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [mm][RFC][PATCH 0/11] mm accessor updates.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:54:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091217085430.GG9804@basil.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1261039534.27920.67.camel@laptop>
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 09:45:34AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 09:40 +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:57:04PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 19:31 +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > >
> > > > The problem of range locking is more than mmap_sem, anyway. I don't think
> > > > it's possible easily.
> > >
> > > We already have a natural range lock in the form of the split pte lock.
> > >
> > > If we make the vma lookup speculative using RCU, we can use the pte lock
> >
> > One problem is here that mmap_sem currently contains sleeps
> > and RCU doesn't work for blocking operations until a custom
> > quiescent period is defined.
>
> Right, so one thing we could do is always have preemptible rcu present
> in another RCU flavour, like
>
> rcu_read_lock_sleep()
> rcu_read_unlock_sleep()
> call_rcu_sleep()
>
> or whatever name that would be, and have PREEMPT_RCU=y only flip the
> regular rcu implementation between the sched/sleep one.
That could work yes.
-Andi
--
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.
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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
cl@linux-foundation.org,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>,
minchan.kim@gmail.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [mm][RFC][PATCH 0/11] mm accessor updates.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:54:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091217085430.GG9804@basil.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1261039534.27920.67.camel@laptop>
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 09:45:34AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 09:40 +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:57:04PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 19:31 +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > >
> > > > The problem of range locking is more than mmap_sem, anyway. I don't think
> > > > it's possible easily.
> > >
> > > We already have a natural range lock in the form of the split pte lock.
> > >
> > > If we make the vma lookup speculative using RCU, we can use the pte lock
> >
> > One problem is here that mmap_sem currently contains sleeps
> > and RCU doesn't work for blocking operations until a custom
> > quiescent period is defined.
>
> Right, so one thing we could do is always have preemptible rcu present
> in another RCU flavour, like
>
> rcu_read_lock_sleep()
> rcu_read_unlock_sleep()
> call_rcu_sleep()
>
> or whatever name that would be, and have PREEMPT_RCU=y only flip the
> regular rcu implementation between the sched/sleep one.
That could work yes.
-Andi
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Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-16 3:00 [mm][RFC][PATCH 0/11] mm accessor updates KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:01 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 1/11] mm accessor for replacing mmap_sem KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:01 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:02 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 2/11] mm accessor for kernel core KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:02 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:03 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 3/11] mm accessor for fs KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:04 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 4/11] mm accessor for kvm KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:05 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 5/11] mm accessor for tomoyo KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:06 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 6/11] mm accessor for driver/gpu KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:06 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:07 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 7/11] mm accessor for inifiniband KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:07 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:08 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 8/11] mm accessor for video KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:08 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:09 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 9/11] mm accessor for sgi gru KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:09 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:10 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 10/11] mm accessor for misc drivers KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:10 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:11 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 11/11] mm accessor for x86 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 3:11 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 10:11 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 0/11] mm accessor updates Andi Kleen
2009-12-16 10:11 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-16 10:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 10:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 10:28 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-16 10:28 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-16 10:31 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 10:31 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 10:49 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-16 10:49 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-16 11:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 11:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 11:31 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-16 11:31 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-16 16:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-16 16:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-16 23:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-16 23:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 4:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-17 4:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-17 8:41 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-17 8:41 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-16 22:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-16 22:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 8:40 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-17 8:40 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-17 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 8:54 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2009-12-17 8:54 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-17 14:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-17 14:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-17 15:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 15:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 17:53 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-17 17:53 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-17 19:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-17 19:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-12-17 19:55 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-17 19:55 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-17 19:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-17 19:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-17 20:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 20:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 20:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-17 20:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-18 5:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 5:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 17:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-18 17:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-18 17:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 17:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 18:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-18 18:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-18 18:43 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-18 18:43 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-18 18:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 18:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 23:18 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 23:18 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-17 19:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-17 19:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-17 20:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 20:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 20:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-17 20:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-12-17 20:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-17 20:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-16 10:31 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-16 10:31 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-16 10:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 10:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 0:38 ` [RFC 0/4] speculative page fault (Was " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 0:41 ` [RFC 1/4] uninline mm accessor KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 0:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 0:43 ` [RFC 2/4] add mm event counter KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 0:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-19 3:23 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-19 3:23 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-19 6:37 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-19 6:37 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 0:45 ` [RFC 3/4] lockless vma caching KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 0:45 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-19 3:43 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-19 3:43 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-19 6:44 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-19 6:44 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 0:46 ` [RFC 4/4] speculative pag fault KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 0:46 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 5:54 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-18 5:54 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-18 6:06 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 6:06 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-18 6:33 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-18 6:33 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-19 3:55 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-19 3:55 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-19 6:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-19 6:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-16 16:24 ` [mm][RFC][PATCH 0/11] mm accessor updates Christoph Lameter
2009-12-16 16:24 ` Christoph Lameter
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