From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:51:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091220155101.GB31257@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B2DF334.6030208@redhat.com>
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:49:40AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 12/14/2009 10:18 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> This might help 32 bit guests, but not guests with 64 bit
>>> kernel and 32 bit userspace (my case) because all 64 bit
>>> CPUs advertise syscall bit in cpuid. Thus 64 bit guests
>>> do not seem to even bother checking this bit:
>>> AMD + 64 bit -> syscall.
>>
>> Okay, I don't see a great option other than migrating the vendor_id
>> string.
>>
>
> That's not strictly necessary since the guest cannot change the vendor
> string; all the user has to do is to launch both guests with explicit
> vendor ids. Of course that imposes more on the user (or the management
> application).
>
>> Otherwise, cross vendor migration will not work by default. Maybe
>> that's not a problem but if so, we really should change the default
>> cpu model to be much more aggressive about exposing host features.
>
> Maybe we should make -cpu host the default. That will give the best
> performance for casual users, more testing for newer features, and will
> force management apps to treat migration much more seriously. The
> downside is that casual users upgrading their machines might experience
> issues with Windows. Feature compatibility is not just about migration.
This seems very aggressive. Can't we whitelist features that we know
about? Further, doesn't KVM already do this?
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-20 15:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-14 19:35 [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 19:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 19:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:00 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-14 20:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-14 20:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 20:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 20:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 20:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 21:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 21:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 14:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-15 17:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 17:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 9:42 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 9:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 14:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 14:55 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 15:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 15:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 15:53 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2009-12-20 15:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 16:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 17:17 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-20 17:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 17:23 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-20 17:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 17:29 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-20 17:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 17:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 18:06 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-21 7:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 13:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-20 18:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 7:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 8:28 ` Dor Laor
2009-12-21 22:51 ` john cooper
2009-12-22 13:54 ` Dor Laor
2009-12-22 15:19 ` john cooper
2009-12-22 16:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-05 6:06 ` john cooper
2010-01-06 8:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
[not found] ` <4B31F1BA.10005@redhat.com>
2010-01-06 0:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 3:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 13:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 13:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 13:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 13:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 13:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 13:55 ` Alexander Graf
2010-01-06 13:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 14:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 14:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 14:48 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-06 15:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 8:03 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 8:03 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 8:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 8:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 9:11 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 9:11 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 9:24 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 9:24 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 9:40 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 11:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 11:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 11:44 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 11:44 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 12:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:20 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 12:20 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 12:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 12:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 12:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-07 12:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-07 12:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 13:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 13:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 13:42 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 13:42 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-11 13:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-01-11 13:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-01-07 11:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:17 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 8:24 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-07 8:24 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-07 9:13 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 9:13 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-06 15:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 15:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 9:44 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-06 9:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 10:21 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-06 10:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 16:19 ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-12-21 11:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:59 ` Andre Przywara
2009-12-21 16:14 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 23:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-21 11:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 11:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 11:22 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-21 11:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 11:45 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-21 12:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-22 22:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-21 12:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 13:45 ` David S. Ahern
2009-12-21 13:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 14:07 ` David S. Ahern
2009-12-21 16:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 12:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 11:38 ` Yaniv Kaul
2009-12-21 13:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-22 22:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-16 14:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andre Przywara
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