From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
Yaniv Kaul <ykaul@redhat.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:56:44 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091222225644.GC19806@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B2F78CF.6050705@redhat.com>
Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>
> >>No, Windows tries to detect changes in your hardware and assumes that
> >>if too many things change, you might be a pirate and requires you to
> >>phone their offices to re-authenticate.
> >
> >'Just' the CPU is not big deal. Might hit you with two 'bad' points.
> >Network interface + CPU will require re-activation.
>
> I think the problem is only for networked images. For normal images, it
> would be the same if you were running Windows natively---upgrade CPU,
> and you risk having to do reactivation.
>
> For networked images, does changing CPU twice count as changing one
> thing? If so that's not too bad, not many things are likely to change
> in a VM beyond the CPU.
>
> Besides, if you have networked images, it's relatively likely that
> you're doing it for a company, hence that you have some kind of MSDN
> subscription which grants you unlimited activations for a given product key.
Are you joking? Even as a casual users, when would you ever run
Windows without networking these days???! I don't think you can even
buy a computer without networking any more :-)
Even just to transfer files from host to guest, you'll typically use a
network.
Or do you mean something else by "networked images" in a company context?
Fwiw, when I have done Windows migrations for companies, they never
have MSDN subscriptions (and neither do I :-) They have purchased
Windows with the machines, and later they want to migrate those
machines into VMs. No hint of MSDN anywhere, why would they?
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-22 22:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-14 19:35 [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 19:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 19:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:00 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-14 20:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-14 20:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 20:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 20:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 20:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 21:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 21:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 14:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-15 17:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 17:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 9:42 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 9:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 14:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 14:55 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 15:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 15:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 15:53 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 15:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 16:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 17:17 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-20 17:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 17:23 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-20 17:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 17:29 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-20 17:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 17:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 18:06 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-21 7:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 13:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-20 18:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 7:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 8:28 ` Dor Laor
2009-12-21 22:51 ` john cooper
2009-12-22 13:54 ` Dor Laor
2009-12-22 15:19 ` john cooper
2009-12-22 16:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-05 6:06 ` john cooper
2010-01-06 8:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
[not found] ` <4B31F1BA.10005@redhat.com>
2010-01-06 0:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 3:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 13:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 13:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 13:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 13:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 13:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 13:55 ` Alexander Graf
2010-01-06 13:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 14:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 14:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 14:48 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-06 15:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 8:03 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 8:03 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 8:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 8:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 9:11 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 9:11 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 9:24 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 9:24 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 9:40 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 11:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 11:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 11:44 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 11:44 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 12:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:20 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 12:20 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 12:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 12:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 12:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-07 12:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-07 12:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 13:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 13:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 13:42 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 13:42 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-11 13:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-01-11 13:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-01-07 11:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:17 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 8:24 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-07 8:24 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-07 9:13 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 9:13 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-06 15:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 15:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 9:44 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-06 9:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 10:21 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-06 10:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 16:19 ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-12-21 11:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:59 ` Andre Przywara
2009-12-21 16:14 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 23:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-21 11:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 11:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 11:22 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-21 11:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 11:45 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-21 12:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-22 22:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-21 12:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 13:45 ` David S. Ahern
2009-12-21 13:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 14:07 ` David S. Ahern
2009-12-21 16:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 12:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 11:38 ` Yaniv Kaul
2009-12-21 13:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-22 22:56 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-12-16 14:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andre Przywara
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