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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	awalls@radix.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jeff@garzik.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, jens.axboe@oracle.com,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au, cl@linux-foundation.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, arjan@linux.intel.com, avi@redhat.com,
	johannes@sipsolutions.net, andi@firstfloor.org
Subject: Re: workqueue thing
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:12:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091223081238.GA29963@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091223080144.GG23839@elte.hu>


* Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> At least as far as i'm concerned, i'd like to see actual uses. It's a big 
> linecount increase all things considered:
> 
>    20 files changed, 2783 insertions(+), 660 deletions(-)
> 
> and you say it _wont_ help performance/scalability (this aspect wasnt clear 
> to me from previous discussions), so the (yet to be seen) complexity 
> reduction in other code ought to be worth it.

To further stress this point, i'd like to point to the very first commit that 
introduced kernel/workqueue.c into Linux 7 years ago:

 | From 6ed12ff83c765aeda7d38d3bf9df7d46d24bfb11 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
 | From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
 | Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 22:17:42 -0700
 | Subject: [PATCH] [PATCH] Workqueue Abstraction

look at the diffstat of that commit:

   201 files changed, 1102 insertions(+), 1194 deletions(-)

despite adding a new abstraction and kernel subsystem (workqueues), that 
commit modified more than a hundred drivers to make use of it, and managed to 
achieve a net linecount decrease of 92 lines - despite adding hundreds of 
lines of a new core facility.

Likewise, for this particular patchset it should be possible to identify 
existing patterns of code in the existing code base of 6+ millions lines of 
Linux driver code that would make the advantages of this +2000 lines of core 
kernel code plain obvious. There were multipe claims of problems with the 
current abstractions - so there sure must be a way to show off the new code in 
a few places.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-23  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-18 12:57 Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 01/27] sched: rename preempt_notifiers to sched_notifiers and refactor implementation Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 02/27] sched: refactor try_to_wake_up() Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 03/27] sched: implement __set_cpus_allowed() Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 04/27] sched: make sched_notifiers unconditional Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 05/27] sched: add wakeup/sleep sched_notifiers and allow NULL notifier ops Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 06/27] sched: implement try_to_wake_up_local() Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 07/27] acpi: use queue_work_on() instead of binding workqueue worker to cpu0 Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 08/27] stop_machine: reimplement without using workqueue Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 09/27] workqueue: misc/cosmetic updates Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 10/27] workqueue: merge feature parameters into flags Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 11/27] workqueue: define both bit position and mask for work flags Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 12/27] workqueue: separate out process_one_work() Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 13/27] workqueue: temporarily disable workqueue tracing Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 14/27] workqueue: kill cpu_populated_map Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 15/27] workqueue: update cwq alignement Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 16/27] workqueue: reimplement workqueue flushing using color coded works Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 17/27] workqueue: introduce worker Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:57 ` [PATCH 18/27] workqueue: reimplement work flushing using linked works Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:58 ` [PATCH 19/27] workqueue: implement per-cwq active work limit Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:58 ` [PATCH 20/27] workqueue: reimplement workqueue freeze using max_active Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:58 ` [PATCH 21/27] workqueue: introduce global cwq and unify cwq locks Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:58 ` [PATCH 22/27] workqueue: implement worker states Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:58 ` [PATCH 23/27] workqueue: reimplement CPU hotplugging support using trustee Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:58 ` [PATCH 24/27] workqueue: make single thread workqueue shared worker pool friendly Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:58 ` [PATCH 25/27] workqueue: use shared worklist and pool all workers per cpu Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:58 ` [PATCH 26/27] workqueue: implement concurrency managed dynamic worker pool Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 12:58 ` [PATCH 27/27] workqueue: increase max_active of keventd and kill current_is_keventd() Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 13:00 ` SUBJ: [RFC PATCHSET] concurrency managed workqueue, take#2 Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 13:03 ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-18 13:45 ` workqueue thing Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-18 13:50   ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-18 15:01     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-21  3:19       ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-21  9:17       ` Jens Axboe
2009-12-21 10:35         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-21 11:09         ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-21 11:17           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-21 11:33             ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-21 13:18             ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-21 11:11         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-21 13:22           ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-21 13:53             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-21 14:19               ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-21 15:19                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-22  0:00                   ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-22 11:10                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-22 17:20                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-22 17:47                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-22 18:07                           ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-22 18:20                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-23  8:17                             ` Stijn Devriendt
2009-12-23  8:43                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-23  9:01                                 ` Stijn Devriendt
2009-12-22 18:28                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-23  8:06                             ` Johannes Berg
2009-12-23  3:37                           ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-23  6:52                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-12-23  8:00                               ` Steffen Klassert
2009-12-23  8:01                                 ` [PATCH 0/2] Parallel crypto/IPsec v7 Steffen Klassert
2009-12-23  8:03                                   ` [PATCH 1/2] padata: generic parallelization/serialization interface Steffen Klassert
2009-12-23  8:04                                   ` [PATCH 2/2] crypto: pcrypt - Add pcrypt crypto parallelization wrapper Steffen Klassert
2010-01-07  5:39                                   ` [PATCH 0/2] Parallel crypto/IPsec v7 Herbert Xu
2010-01-16  9:44                                     ` David Miller
2009-12-18 15:30   ` workqueue thing Linus Torvalds
2009-12-18 15:39     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-18 15:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-18 15:47       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-18 15:53         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-21  3:04   ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-21  9:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-21 13:30       ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-21 14:26         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-21 23:50           ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-22 11:00             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-22 11:03             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-23  3:43               ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-22 11:04             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-23  3:48               ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-22 11:06             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-23  4:18               ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-23  4:42                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-23  6:02                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-23  6:13                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-12-23  7:53                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-23  8:41                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-12-23 10:25                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-12-23 13:33                           ` Stefan Richter
2009-12-23 14:20                           ` Mark Brown
2009-12-23  7:09                     ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-23  8:01                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-23  8:12                         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-12-23  8:32                           ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-23  8:42                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-23  8:27                         ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-23  8:37                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-23  8:49                             ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-23  8:49                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-23  9:03                                 ` Tejun Heo
2009-12-23 13:40                             ` Stefan Richter
2009-12-23 13:43                               ` Stefan Richter
2009-12-23  8:25                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-23 13:00                     ` Stefan Richter
2009-12-23  8:31             ` Stijn Devriendt

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