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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	util-linux-ng@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng v2.17 (stable)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:05:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100111140255.GA1416@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B47A713.9060405@zytor.com>

On Fri 2010-01-08 13:43:47, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 01/08/2010 01:33 AM, Karel Zak wrote:
> > 
> > fdisk:
> >    - the fdisk command aligns newly created partitions to minimum_io_size
> >      boundary ("minimum_io_size" is physical sector size or stripe chunk
> >      size on RAIDs).
> > 
> >    - the fdisk command supports disks with alignment_offset now.
> > 
> 
> I think we should align, by default, much more aggressively than that --
> because frequently we just don't know what the real physical alignment
> is (think of flash media, which uses large erase blocks underneath.)

Flash has special mapping layer, and does not care (SD/MMC), or is a
raw nand and can't be used as block device (smartmedia).
 
								Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

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From: Pavel Machek <pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Karel Zak <kzak-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	util-linux-ng-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng v2.17 (stable)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:05:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100111140255.GA1416@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B47A713.9060405-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On Fri 2010-01-08 13:43:47, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 01/08/2010 01:33 AM, Karel Zak wrote:
> > 
> > fdisk:
> >    - the fdisk command aligns newly created partitions to minimum_io_size
> >      boundary ("minimum_io_size" is physical sector size or stripe chunk
> >      size on RAIDs).
> > 
> >    - the fdisk command supports disks with alignment_offset now.
> > 
> 
> I think we should align, by default, much more aggressively than that --
> because frequently we just don't know what the real physical alignment
> is (think of flash media, which uses large erase blocks underneath.)

Flash has special mapping layer, and does not care (SD/MMC), or is a
raw nand and can't be used as block device (smartmedia).
 
								Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-11 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-08  9:33 [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng v2.17 (stable) Karel Zak
2010-01-08  9:33 ` Karel Zak
2010-01-08 21:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-08 22:40   ` Andreas Dilger
2010-01-08 22:40     ` Andreas Dilger
2010-01-08 23:33     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-08 23:33       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-11  6:36     ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-01-11  6:36       ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-01-11  7:27       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-11  7:27         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-11 14:05   ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2010-01-11 14:05     ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-11 16:52     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-11 20:17       ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-11 20:17         ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-11 23:26         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-11 23:26           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-12 13:33           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-01-12 13:33             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-01-12 13:35             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-01-12 13:35               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-01-11 19:17     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-01-11 19:17       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-01-12  7:19     ` Jörn Engel
2010-01-12  8:19       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-12  8:19         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-12  9:37         ` Jörn Engel
2010-01-12  9:37           ` Jörn Engel
2010-01-12 16:20           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-12 16:20             ` H. Peter Anvin

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