From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
util-linux-ng@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng v2.17 (stable)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:36:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1ocl187ww.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <329167C1-CF54-4742-B0B7-AD0B9DEFDEC1@sun.com> (Andreas Dilger's message of "Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:40:33 -0700")
>>>>> "Andreas" == Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com> writes:
Andreas> I agree whole heartedly. We steer users very sharply away from
Andreas> using partitions at all, because on h/w RAID devices the
Andreas> 512-byte offset from fdisk completely kills RAID-5/6
Andreas> performance.
I don't have a problem aligning to 1MB (taking alignment_offset into
account) by default but there needs to be an easy override. There are
RAID arrays that internally compensate for the legacy 63 sector offset
and we'll cause misalignment if we start at 1MB on those.
I'm heavily lobbying our storage partners to make sure they fill out the
right SCSI bits if their LUNs are not naturally aligned. But there are
obviously going to be legacy devices out there that will need manual
alignment compensation.
--
Martin K. Petersen Oracle Linux Engineering
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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger-xsfywfwIY+M@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Karel Zak <kzak-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
util-linux-ng-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng v2.17 (stable)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:36:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1ocl187ww.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <329167C1-CF54-4742-B0B7-AD0B9DEFDEC1-xsfywfwIY+M@public.gmane.org> (Andreas Dilger's message of "Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:40:33 -0700")
>>>>> "Andreas" == Andreas Dilger <adilger-xsfywfwIY+M@public.gmane.org> writes:
Andreas> I agree whole heartedly. We steer users very sharply away from
Andreas> using partitions at all, because on h/w RAID devices the
Andreas> 512-byte offset from fdisk completely kills RAID-5/6
Andreas> performance.
I don't have a problem aligning to 1MB (taking alignment_offset into
account) by default but there needs to be an easy override. There are
RAID arrays that internally compensate for the legacy 63 sector offset
and we'll cause misalignment if we start at 1MB on those.
I'm heavily lobbying our storage partners to make sure they fill out the
right SCSI bits if their LUNs are not naturally aligned. But there are
obviously going to be legacy devices out there that will need manual
alignment compensation.
--
Martin K. Petersen Oracle Linux Engineering
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-11 6:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-08 9:33 [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng v2.17 (stable) Karel Zak
2010-01-08 9:33 ` Karel Zak
2010-01-08 21:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-08 22:40 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-01-08 22:40 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-01-08 23:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-08 23:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-11 6:36 ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2010-01-11 6:36 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-01-11 7:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-11 7:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-11 14:05 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-11 14:05 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-11 16:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-11 20:17 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-11 20:17 ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-11 23:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-11 23:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-12 13:33 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-01-12 13:33 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-01-12 13:35 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-01-12 13:35 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-01-11 19:17 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-01-11 19:17 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-01-12 7:19 ` Jörn Engel
2010-01-12 8:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-12 8:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-12 9:37 ` Jörn Engel
2010-01-12 9:37 ` Jörn Engel
2010-01-12 16:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-12 16:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
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