From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: john cooper <john.cooper@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
"Przywara, Andre" <Andre.Przywara@amd.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add definitions for current cpu models..
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:26:35 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100120202634.GA20754@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B576311.3030906@redhat.com>
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 03:09:53PM -0500, john cooper wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
> > On 01/19/2010 02:03 PM, Chris Wright wrote:
> >> * Anthony Liguori (anthony@codemonkey.ws) wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm very much against having -cpu Nehalem. The whole point of this is
> >>> to make things easier for a user and for most of the users I've
> >>> encountered, -cpu Nehalem is just as obscure as -cpu
> >>> qemu64,-sse3,+vmx,...
> >>>
> >> What name will these users know? FWIW, it makes sense to me as it is.
> >>
> >
> > Whatever is in /proc/cpuinfo.
>
> $ grep name /proc/cpuinfo
> model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
>
> Which is detailing that exact cpu vs. the class
> of which it is a member. So are you suggesting
> to map all instances of processors called out
> in /proc/cpuinfo into one of the three defined
> models? We can certainly do that however I was
> looking for a more terse and simplified solution
> at this level while deferring more ornate mapping
> schemes to management tools.
>
> Still at the user facing CLI this doesn't strike
> me as the most friendly encoding of a -cpu <name>.
To be honest all possible naming schemes for '-cpu <name>' are just as
unfriendly as each other. The only user friendly option is '-cpu host'.
IMHO, we should just pick a concise naming scheme & document it. Given
they are all equally unfriendly, the one that has consistency with vmware
naming seems like a mild winner.
Daniel
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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: john cooper <john.cooper@redhat.com>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
"Przywara, Andre" <Andre.Przywara@amd.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add definitions for current cpu models..
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:26:35 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100120202634.GA20754@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B576311.3030906@redhat.com>
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 03:09:53PM -0500, john cooper wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
> > On 01/19/2010 02:03 PM, Chris Wright wrote:
> >> * Anthony Liguori (anthony@codemonkey.ws) wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm very much against having -cpu Nehalem. The whole point of this is
> >>> to make things easier for a user and for most of the users I've
> >>> encountered, -cpu Nehalem is just as obscure as -cpu
> >>> qemu64,-sse3,+vmx,...
> >>>
> >> What name will these users know? FWIW, it makes sense to me as it is.
> >>
> >
> > Whatever is in /proc/cpuinfo.
>
> $ grep name /proc/cpuinfo
> model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
>
> Which is detailing that exact cpu vs. the class
> of which it is a member. So are you suggesting
> to map all instances of processors called out
> in /proc/cpuinfo into one of the three defined
> models? We can certainly do that however I was
> looking for a more terse and simplified solution
> at this level while deferring more ornate mapping
> schemes to management tools.
>
> Still at the user facing CLI this doesn't strike
> me as the most friendly encoding of a -cpu <name>.
To be honest all possible naming schemes for '-cpu <name>' are just as
unfriendly as each other. The only user friendly option is '-cpu host'.
IMHO, we should just pick a concise naming scheme & document it. Given
they are all equally unfriendly, the one that has consistency with vmware
naming seems like a mild winner.
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-20 20:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-18 16:45 [PATCH] Add definitions for current cpu models john cooper
2010-01-18 16:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " john cooper
2010-01-19 19:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-19 19:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-19 20:03 ` Chris Wright
2010-01-19 22:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-19 22:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-19 22:20 ` Chris Wright
2010-01-19 22:20 ` Chris Wright
2010-01-19 22:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-20 0:15 ` Chris Wright
2010-01-20 0:15 ` Chris Wright
2010-01-20 14:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-20 14:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-01-20 14:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-01-20 1:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-20 1:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-20 20:09 ` john cooper
2010-01-20 20:26 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2010-01-20 20:26 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-20 20:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-20 20:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-21 0:25 ` Chris Wright
2010-01-21 0:25 ` Chris Wright
2010-01-21 1:18 ` john cooper
2010-01-21 1:18 ` john cooper
2010-01-21 14:39 ` Andre Przywara
2010-01-21 14:39 ` Andre Przywara
2010-01-21 17:06 ` Blue Swirl
2010-01-21 15:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-21 15:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-21 16:43 ` john cooper
2010-01-21 16:43 ` john cooper
2010-01-21 18:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-21 18:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-25 9:08 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-25 9:08 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-25 11:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-25 11:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-25 14:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-25 14:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-25 22:35 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-26 8:26 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-01-26 8:26 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-01-26 12:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-26 12:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 8:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-28 8:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-28 8:43 ` Alexander Graf
2010-01-28 8:43 ` Alexander Graf
2010-01-28 10:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-28 10:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-28 14:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 14:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-19 22:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-20 20:09 ` john cooper
2010-01-20 20:09 ` john cooper
2010-01-21 17:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-21 17:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-21 18:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-21 18:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-21 18:36 ` john cooper
2010-01-21 18:36 ` john cooper
2010-01-19 22:15 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-19 22:15 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-20 20:11 ` john cooper
2010-01-20 20:11 ` john cooper
2010-01-21 17:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-21 17:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-01-21 18:34 ` john cooper
2010-01-21 18:34 ` john cooper
2010-01-20 23:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-20 23:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-12-21 6:46 [Qemu-devel] " john cooper
2009-12-24 13:45 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-31 3:13 ` Jamie Lokier
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