From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com>,
avi@redhat.com, markmc@redhat.com, ogerlitz@voltaire.com,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH qemu-kvm] Add raw(af_packet) network backend to qemu
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:59:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100127165909.GA13260@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B60488F.5020506@codemonkey.ws>
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 08:07:11AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 01/27/2010 03:24 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> I am not sure I agree with this sentiment. The main issue being that
>> macvtap doesn't exist on all kernels :).
>
> Neither does vhost ;-) If it were just that as the difference, I'd be
> inclined to agree, but macvtap is much better from a security PoV.
>
>>> Not to mention that from a user perspective, raw makes almost no sense
>>> as it's an obscure socket protocol family.
>>>
>>> A user wants to do useful things like bridged networking or direct VF
>>> assignment. We should have -net backends that reflect things that make
>>> sense to a user.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Anthony Liguori
>>>
>>
>> I agree to that. People don't even seem to agree whether it's a raw
>> socket or a packet socket :) We need a better name for this option: what
>> it really does is rely on an external device to loopback a packet to us,
>> so how about -net loopback or -net extbridge?
>>
>
> Specifically for VEPA, something like:
>
> -net extbridge,if=eth0
>
> or even
>
> -net vepa,if=eth0
>
> Would be fantastic.
extbridge is IMO better.
> I think the best way to achieve this is to
> introduce a small helper that gets called and can create a macvtap
> device and hand the file descriptor back to qemu :-) A builtin backend
> would also be fine since we don't have the helper infrastructure.
Excellent.
Sridhar, this is actually not a lot of work on top of what you
already posted.
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-27 17:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-26 20:40 [PATCH qemu-kvm] Add raw(af_packet) network backend to qemu Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-26 20:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-26 20:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-26 23:19 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 9:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 9:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27 9:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 14:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 21:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27 22:56 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-28 6:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-28 16:53 ` Jens Osterkamp
2010-01-28 11:22 ` Or Gerlitz
2010-01-29 20:52 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-29 20:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 14:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 16:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2010-01-27 17:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 17:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 17:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 17:54 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 18:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 18:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 19:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 8:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-28 13:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 14:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 14:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 14:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 15:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 16:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 17:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 18:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-29 11:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 20:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-02-01 15:47 ` Or Gerlitz
2010-01-27 18:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-26 23:15 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-26 23:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 0:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 6:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27 6:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27 14:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 14:14 ` Anthony Liguori
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