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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com>,
	avi@redhat.com, markmc@redhat.com, ogerlitz@voltaire.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH qemu-kvm] Add raw(af_packet) network backend to qemu
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:07:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B60488F.5020506@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100127092451.GC3476@redhat.com>

On 01/27/2010 03:24 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> I am not sure I agree with this sentiment.  The main issue being that
> macvtap doesn't exist on all kernels :).

Neither does vhost ;-)  If it were just that as the difference, I'd be 
inclined to agree, but macvtap is much better from a security PoV.

>> Not to mention that from a user perspective, raw makes almost no sense
>> as it's an obscure socket protocol family.
>>
>> A user wants to do useful things like bridged networking or direct VF
>> assignment.  We should have -net backends that reflect things that make
>> sense to a user.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Anthony Liguori
>>      
>
> I agree to that. People don't even seem to agree whether it's a raw
> socket or a packet socket :) We need a better name for this option: what
> it really does is rely on an external device to loopback a packet to us,
> so how about -net loopback or -net extbridge?
>    

Specifically for VEPA, something like:

-net extbridge,if=eth0

or even

-net vepa,if=eth0

Would be fantastic.  I think the best way to achieve this is to 
introduce a small helper that gets called and can create a macvtap 
device and hand the file descriptor back to qemu :-)  A builtin backend 
would also be fine since we don't have the helper infrastructure.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-27 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-26 20:40 [PATCH qemu-kvm] Add raw(af_packet) network backend to qemu Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-26 20:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-26 20:50   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-26 23:19     ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27  9:24     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27  9:34       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27  9:44         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 14:03           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 21:39             ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27 22:56               ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-28  6:06                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-28 16:53                   ` Jens Osterkamp
2010-01-28 11:22                 ` Or Gerlitz
2010-01-29 20:52                 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-29 20:52                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 14:07       ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-01-27 16:59         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 17:07           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 17:25             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 17:36               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 17:54                 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 18:02                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 18:03                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 19:54                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28  8:12                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-28 13:56                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 14:13                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 14:39                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 14:52                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 15:05                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 16:37                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 17:58                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 18:04                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 19:57                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-29 11:26                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 20:29                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-02-01 15:47                         ` Or Gerlitz
2010-01-27 18:12                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-26 23:15   ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-26 23:15     ` [Qemu-devel] " Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27  0:06     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27  6:52       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27  6:52         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27 14:14         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 14:14           ` Anthony Liguori

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